Spectrum

David, a religion teacher at Loma Linda University, something to do with bioethics said, and my response is in all CAPS again:

"I just took off my coat and put my brass knuckles on!

HELP DANEEN, I THINK I'M ABOUT TO BE ATTACKED!!! ;-0

A minimal amount of violence would probably

PROBABLY?!!!

be necessary in even an 'ideal' world. Self defense is an obvious example.

THANK YOU FOR FINALLY COMING OUT OF YOUR IDEAL WORLD THAT WE AIN'T.

But this stupid world has been filled with violence and atrocity for thousands of years. Often, this violence and atrocity has been connected with some kind of religion.

SO RELIGION IS THE CULPRIT, AND WE SHOULD TURN THE OTHER CHEEK AND DIE, NEVER TO FINISH OUR WITNESS, ONLY AS A MARTYR. I THINK EVEN THE JEWS, ARMED TO THE TEETH BY US AMERICANS HAVE VOWED NEVER TO PERMIT A HOLOCAUST AGAIN. PACIFISTS NO MORE!!!

There even seems to be a Vatican connection with Adolph Hitler and Nazi Germany.

BUT DAVID, THAT'S THE WAY THINGS WERE DONE THEN, WASN'T THAT THE RESPONSE I GOT ABOUT THE RESPECTED CALVIN AND LUTHER?

The God of the Old Testament and Revelation is extremely ill-tempered and violent.

THESE ARE YOUR TERMS FOR INSPIRED WORDS. WOW!!!!!

I thought that Satan was the ill-tempered and violent one?

CAN SATAN BE MISCHARACTERIZED LIKE YOU HAVE ACCUSED GOD/JESUS OF BEING BY HIS OWN "WORD OF GOD"?

Have many, if not most Christians, been worshipping and serving the wrong God, both historically, and in modernity? Is this a subtle, but deadly, Satan worship?

HEY, YOU ARE THE RELIGION TEACHER, HOPE THAT ISN'T COMING OUT OF THE CLASSROOM!!!

Is this a major reason why this world is so violent and screwed-up? Satan doesn't want a peaceful, non-violent world, does he?

SIN HAS BEEN HERE SINCE EDEN. THIS WORLD HAS TO BE PURIFIED YET OF SIN, THAT WILL BE A VIOLENT ACT, NOT A SPONTANEOUS ONE LIKE SOME AROUND LOMA LINDA CLAIM.

The words of Jesus are very different. If Jesus was perfect...then shouldn't His words be viewed as being supremely authoritative for Christians?

WHAT HAPPENED TO LITERALISM AND FUNDAMENTALISM AND METAPHORS??? CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT!!!

But Christians blew the Great Commission. Maybe many of them thought Jesus was just kidding. He belongs on the cross, right? Everyone else knows better than the second person of the Holy Trinity, right?

THESE SENTENCES SEEM UNCLEAR, MAYBE YOU CAN CLARIFY YOUR POINT. YOU JUST JUMPED FROM A DISCUSSION OF VIOLENCE BY RELIGION TO A FAILURE OF WITNESSING ABOUT THE GOSPEL. THE GOSPEL IS ABOUT SALVATION AND ESCAPING VIOLENCE FOREVER, YOU WANT IT BEFORE ITS TIME. I'M AFRAID IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER ACCORDING TO THE WAY OUR SCHOOLS TAUGHT ME.

I'm ranting in a generic sense, and not at you personally, Douglas.

DANEEN, I MAY NOT NEED YOU AFTER ALL!! ;-)

This is sort of a closed-door debating society of sorts, and probably most of the participants have pretty thick skin

NOT ACCORDING TO DANEEN!!!!

(and thick skulls in some cases--just kidding!)."

HOPE IT IS "JUST KIDDING", PROOFS IN THE PUDDING AS THEY SAY!!!

REGARDS

DOUGLAS