Samuel Koranteng–Pipim Cancels Speaking Appointments and Resigns from Michigan Conference

Michigan Conference president Jay Gallimore writes, "I received a call from Dr. Pipim Monday [May 23] afternoon telling me that he was resigning from Michigan Conference and the ministry."

Samuel Pipim, director of public campus ministries for the Michigan conference, helped to found Generation of Youth for Christ (GYC), led the opposition to the ordination of women, and authored a number of books supporting conservative readings of the Bible.

In a May 29 message addressed to "Colleagues in Ministry," Jay Gallimore writes, "life and ministry sometimes brings us great pain and sorrow. This is one of those times. Dr. Samuel Pipim. . .has given the Michigan Conference Executive Committee (MCEC) his resignation. It has been accepted and voted. Please see his resignation letter. . ." Because it was circulated by his conference and is freely available on the CAMPUS website, it is embedded below.

Samuel Pipim Resignation Letter

Martina - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 00:21

Although I have not been a fan of Dr Pipim or his theology, I recognise how much he has put his heart, soul and life into his work with young people. At this time I can imagine it is a very painful time of letting go of the ministry that has been his life until now. My prayers are for him and his family as they find healing, grace and the way forward. The former ministry doors may have closed, yet I'm sure there is a new unfolding path for him.

Donna Haerich - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 02:51

I, too, have never been a fan of Pipim. He, like our friend, Cliff, were converts into our church, Both were taught Adventism from a very conservative and literal perspective. The Lord he loves also loves him and I pray he will find a place where he can continue to minister. I, also, pray for the healing of his family.

C. Ray - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 03:14

Regardless of our differences in theological perspectives, I think it's sad that his role in professional ministry had to end in this manner. I pray for his continued journey toward healing both spiritually and relationally with his family. I hope people extend grace toward him and will result in him having grace towards others. No doubt this was difficult to share, so I hope no one revels in it, but instead lifts him up in prayer as we ALL stand in the need of prayer. But for the grace of God...

Susanna - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 03:23

I also pray for the other, unknown, person.

Robert Osei-Bonsu - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 03:37

I am again fully convinced how human we all are and how we stand in need of prayer, mercy and the grace of God. Pastor we are all praying for you in this difficult time, we are all standing together with you. Remember, you are not alone, millions are praying for you. Be strong in the Lord you have always testified about and He will be your strength.

Sirje Walkowiak - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 03:51

Susanna - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 03:23

I also pray for the other, unknown, person.

... and then there's his family.

merethinker - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 04:09

Nice words.
My question is - Is this man still an Adventist?
One of the things that really annoyed me with the Pipim ministry is the way he is pointing to other people`s opinions about theology issues. I have watched several Pipim videos on Youtube where he is again and again saying very clearly - if you don`t have this opinion on this and that - You are not an Adventist. So - what now?

Susanna - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 04:18

What now?

Grace is all that is left - no matter what he or anyone else has said.

notastone - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 05:13

As controversial as Dr. Pipim might have been, he never said that his opinion was that if you are a sinner, you cannot be an Adventist. I pray that there will be none who casts the first stone in this regard. After all, no matter what he said, he is still a man; a human, as we all are, no matter how loud or unpleasant he might have come off to some people as.

Geo S. Believer - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 05:13

This is a sad development in the life of any Christian, and certainly for a pastor.

Note this quote from the letter on his website: "Undoubtedly, my resignation will be greeted with deep sorrow and hurt by those of you who have known me and worked closely with me. On the other hand, others who have always opposed what we stand for will have an additional reason to rejoice." That he supposes that those who found his theology and attitude unhelpful will be rejoicing is the really sad thing. He still holds the same rigid, us vs. them way thinking. Whether or not there is grace for him in this, there is still no grace for the rest of us.

Graeme Sharrock - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 06:00

All of us have a light and a dark side. The more strident and insistent the public mask, the deeper and more powerful the subterranean forces. Dr Pipim's journey "overseas" begins the journey into his own dark night of the soul. This is also part of human spirituality. Our best guide in this journey is Carl Jung, whose insights into the hidden self or "shadow" and the archetypes in which we all participate can be a healing venture into self-knowledge, humility and compassion for others.

Graeme

pat travis - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 06:06

"If you, O LORD, kept a record of sins,
O Lord, who could stand?
4 But with you there is forgiveness;
therefore you are feared. "
Ps.130:3,4.

regards,
pat

merethinker - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 06:11

I have no problems with grace and compassion - but why is that conservative members f.ex. condemn drums and electric guitars - and so easily have a lot of grace when it comes to divorce, adultery or any sexual issues?

G Y - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 06:15

conservatives have a lot of grace when it comes to divorce, adultery or any other sexual issues? that hasn't been my major observation or experience .

Jim Roberts - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 06:39

How about this for a solution on drums and electric guitars...??

Bring a personal MP3 player/ earphones to church loaded with In-A-Gadda-Da Vida and Freebird.

Fred Eastman - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 07:04

While I don't know Dr. Pipim, he joins a long list of Biblical leaders who were "brought low" by our humanity i.e. Moses, David....etc.
He deserves our forgiveness as a fellow traveler in this journey called "life".
I hope that the "youth" who have been a big part of his ministry don't become discouraged or lose "perspective" regarding our shared humanity and need for "healing" from the damage done by the cancer we call "sin". God clearly loves Dr. Pipim as He loves each of us!!!
Obviously his family and associates need our prayers and a true spirit of "graciousness" that God has shown to each one of us and in fact this "graciousness" is what is sooooo winsome a character trait of our God!!
Rather than being a "downer" let us reflect on our own shortcomings and how our God offers "healing" and "grace" to each of us as well as all those hurt in this sad event!!!
Let us be a part of that healing!! You never know but it might be part of a "change of heart" that God will bring out of this event.
All the best to Dr. Pipim et al
Fred

Just Wondering - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 07:11

When I arrived at Andrews in the mid 90's, Pipim was hailed by the more fundamentalist teachers as their new Führer. It's sad to see him fall like this. It's a disgrace, no doubt.

Does his fall have to do with his ultra-conservative views on lifestyle, music, theology? Maybe. I think we are all extremists and mono-maniacs when we lose sight of Jesus and engage in this silly, pathetic bickering about minor issues.

Jim Roberts - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 07:13

"Every religious fanatic is either a sexual pervert or a thief."

I did a Google and can't find a source

S Styrra. - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 07:29

The source for the quote is:

http://spectrummagazine.org/blog/2011/05/31/samuel-koranteng–pipim-cancels-speaking-appointments-and-resigns-michigan-conference

The author is JR

Carmen Lau - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 07:32

Just Wondering, Your comment resonates with me. I believe you speak the truth. Only the truth can set us free.

S Styrra. - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 07:46

"I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart" Matthew 5:28

"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." Matthew 8:7

"I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do." Romans 7:15

"This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief." 1 Timothy 1:15

S Styrra. - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 07:48

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

S Styrra. - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 07:55

"Does his fall have to do with his ultra-conservative views on lifestyle, music, theology? Maybe."

No!

Ultra conservative, conservative, middle-of-the road, progressive, liberal, ultra liberal, anarchist, straight or gay, women and men, white, black, brown or other ... - I've known all and all categories have known people in each who have done what Samuel's done. This behaviour has no claim on any particular group. Forgiveness , healing, love and grace have a claim on all.

hopeful 2011 - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 07:59

His website still describes Pipim as "a Director of Public Campus Ministries." http://www.drpipim.org/

"Undoubtedly, my resignation will be greeted with deep sorrow and hurt by those of you who have known me and worked closely with me. On the other hand, others who have always opposed what we stand for will have an additional reason to rejoice."

Pipim's expectation that some will "rejoice" at his downfall could be projection w/ roots in his--
Gospel of Tolerance

“The popular gospel of tolerance--the belief that we should not be judgmental or judge anyone—is inconsistent, self-refuting and unbiblical.”

Carmen Lau - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 08:01

We are all extremists when we lose site of Jesus and engage in silly, pathetic, bickering about minor issues.

Alexander Carpenter - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 08:12

It is significant that he writes in his apology letter to the public that he expects those who have opposed him to rejoice, but I actually don't see much rejoicing here.

A psychotherapist who specializes in religion and human relations, Graeme, gets to something profound about this journey.

All of us have a light and a dark side. The more strident and insistent the public mask, the deeper and more powerful the subterranean forces. Dr Pipim's journey "overseas" begins the journey into his own dark night of the soul. This is also part of human spirituality. Our best guide in this journey is Carl Jung, whose insights into the hidden self or "shadow" and the archetypes in which we all participate can be a healing venture into self-knowledge, humility and compassion for others.

Samira - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 08:24

On Dr Pipim's website are his books for sale

Healed Wounds but Ugly Scars

This is Love

The link to the first goes nowhere. The page has been removed. The second one remains. An unintended Gospel insight.

Tom Zwemer - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 08:32

Confession, repentance, restitution when necessary, but why resignation. Did Moses or David resign?

Just think of the number who didn't confess or repent until after exposed!

Was resignation his idea or was it an offer he couldn't refuse?

I know of several similar instances in which a transfer was considered the proper and quiet thing to do.

I also know of several who went into the most conservative self-supporting work following such a "fall" and continued a very strident pietism.

The games people play. I had to give up golf and a lot of other activities because of age--so I can speak freely. Tom Z

merethinker - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 09:35

I love a lot of these comments.
And of course I feel sorry for the Pipim family in this.
My concern however - with all this talk about grace and unconditional love - is that we so easily CONDEMN coffe drinkers and modern music - but we embrace people destroying other peoples lives, wives, husband`s, children`s . To me it really doesn`t make sense.

Elaine Nelson - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 09:48

If Adventism listed all the possible "sins" there would be insufficient paper to list them.

Elaine

Fred Eastman - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 09:55

Elaine
Save a tree, hug a sinner!! Sounds like a good new "mantra"!!
:>)
Fred

Samira - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 09:57

The people in the church i associate with drink coffee , listen to modern music, and show so much grace and unconditional love!

Kirk King - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 10:22

The younger brother returned to the Father knowing he was a sinner, with the belief that he was only worthy of being a slave. The Father had other ideas and welcomed him back as a son. The older brother thought he was a slave all the time, but the Father said, "you were always with me, everything I have is yours." I pray that Sam will believe the Father's story is true and has always been, on both sides of his "moral fall."

While they may not be sexual in nature, we have all had moral failures. If Sam Pipim is less fit for ministry now then before, then none of us are fit. I consider Sam a friend and though I though I have many disagreements with the theology Sam has ascribed to, and the divisions that his ministries have fostered in the Adventist church, I still believe that God's love for Sam is as broad and deep as it has ever been.

Sam, may God's love help you find healing, forgiveness and assurance. Believe the Father's story about you, not the one you create out of your sin or your work.

Aage Rendalen - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 10:26

People are always shocked when somebody who espouses their own world view engages in bad behavior. There is unfortunately a widespread assumption out there that 'correct' opinions somehow translate into superior morals. In the real world, ideology is a poor predictor of individual morality. Whether a person is a Christian or a Muslim or an atheist says preciously little about their moral fiber. Religions and ideologies tells us about people's opinions, their values, their practices, but not much about their morals.

Morality inhabits the precarious turf at the busy intersection between selfishness and altruism where personal desire clashes daily with the needs and values of the community. Lucky are those who never end up under the wheels of an oncoming disaster. Life, unfortunately, gives us precious little to boast about when it comes to morals.

The unfortunate thing is that we all pretend that that's not the case. We throw the offenders to the curb to be picked up by the community's waste disposal unit, and thank God we're not like that. In the Christian church, unfortunately, morals has been largely reduced to sexual morality. If Pipim, instead of offending sexually, had beaten his wife or been abusive to his employees or been a cabinet minister in Mugabe's government chances are he would still be in good and regular standing with the church. (I doubt that the SDAs who participated in Rwanda's genocide were excommunicated after the event.) Blame the apostle Paul. He only mandated church discipline for sexual offenses. He wished men would treat their wives and slaves well, but if they didn't, he left it at that.

Getting rid of the offender is the easy way out. If Pipim had been allowed to continue in his job, chances are that he might have become a better and more effective--even more humble--representative of his faith.

Aage

anon - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 10:31

Has it been determined what gender the other individual is? His railing against homosexuality would make one question if perhaps there was an internal struggle. Not saying this is the case, but with all the Ted Haggards of the fundamentalist right wing, it would not be surprising.

Regardless, I commend KP's courage to step forward and take the appropriate action of removing himself from a position of authority. I do hope that this will prompt him to rethink some of his less graceful theological points and perhaps with the love, acceptance, and tolerance of those he previously would have pushed out of the church he will come to a true understanding of God's grace to ALL people.

Kenneth Breku amoatweng - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 10:36

Pastor Robert Osei-Bonsu you wrote on Wed, 06/01/2011 - 03:37
"I am again fully convinced how human we all are and how we stand in need of prayer, mercy and the grace of God. Pastor we are all praying for you in this difficult time, we are all standing together with you. Remember, you are not alone, millions are praying for you. Be strong in the Lord you have always testified about and He will be your strength."

You call yourself a man of God. How could you encourage such behavior? You must be ashamed of yourself and resign from your position as Dean of school of Theology and Missions for valley view University. This man knew exactly what he was doing. You will pray for him but the victim being the woman who had a problem and was taken advantage of you will not pray for her. No wonder birds of the same ........ fly together. You will crucify a woman for wearing ear rings but will pray for a womanizer. shame on you.

John Alfke - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 10:56

Did Moses or David resign?

no...but...

God was gonna kill Moses at one point, but his non hebrew wife solved the problem just in the "nick" of time by foreshortening their sons manhood.

God forgave David's many improprieties, and instead,
God punished David by killing his innocent newborn baby son....
and later set other sons against each other all the while claiming that
David was a man after God's own heart.

Samuel: The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.
12:14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
12:15 And Nathan departed unto his house. And the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick.

another case where its scary to believe Samuel literally.....

question;
if God didn't want people to have se, ah, physical, interpersonal relationships, why did He say
go forth and multiply, and why did He create life in a way that it could be an enjoyable experience?
when He cudda chosen parthenogenesis?

and why do we claim that God limits men to one woman, when the ancient patriarchs under Gods rule found out (like the Moslems and Mormons) that it only takes one rooster to service a whole henhouse? and it is said, dont quote me on this, that some of the hens prefer it that way for a regular day off.

In the olden daze, it was advantageous to ones tribe for a man to have multiple wives...to raise up a large family of workers and soldiers. The alleged wisest man who ever lived enjoyed the company of thousands of women.....apparently once every 3-4 years? Today only the well financed can afford to do that, and inheritance laws and the Apostle Pauls urgings have mitigated against plural relationships or marriages. Either way, one naturally hopes and prays for the various parties emotional well being.

where there's a will and a heavy counterbalance, there's a way.
http://www.wimp.com/mastbridge/

Not Surprised - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 10:54

Not surprised that Spectrum Blog/Alexander Carpenter jumped on this. In fact, when when we discovered what had transpired, we both said, "Spectrum will be all over this." Didn't take but five minutes, it seems. Why did this need to be a headline? Because the folks who lurk in the dark corners of this blog have made it their full time obsession to throw stones at the church - and hide beneath the cover of "journalism" (right) and "dialogue".

This is a sad, sad place.

anon - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 10:56

@Not Surprised:

So you'd rather see it pushed under the rug?

glenn - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:00

"Not surprised that Spectrum Blog/Alexander Carpenter jumped on this. In fact, when when we discovered what had transpired, we both said, "Spectrum will be all over this." Didn't take but five minutes, it seems."

I had seen a report about Pipkin much earlier in the day, actually. It wasn't for several hours until Spectrum picked it up. So "five minutes" is a bit of an exaggeration.

merethinker - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:02

Having the "right" opinions about 1844, Ellen White and creationism is so more important than being true to your wife.

May God prevent Pipim for becoming a martyr in this.

glenn - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:02

Sorry, meant to say "Pipim".

bevin - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:06

I think I have known more strident evangelists to do such things than ones that did not. Usually they quit.

Which is interesting, because usually we learn from mistakes and don't repeat them. Such learners make the best teachers - because they have come face to face with their humanity and learnt humility and reality.

So why do they resign? Because they can't face the fact that their teachings don't work in the real world, because even they could not get them to work. Because the facade of certainty that they have been presenting has been ill-fitting over severe personal doubts for a long time, and they finally get the strength to drop the whole pretense.

I know it took a lot for me to realize that SDA'ism was not getting better, and that I was better off leaving it. I hope Dr Pipim finds as much happiness and fulfillment in his new life as I have found in mine.

Shakespeare was right - To thine own self be true. Doing things because you think other people think you should is a bad idea.

/Bevin

Not Surprised - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:06

@glenn:

Hence the words "...it seems." Five minutes, five hours. It was still predictable that Spectrum would jump all over this.

Grace - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:06

S Styrra, I agree with you we as humans are all vulnerable… this can happen to anybody. Let’s pray for him.

Not Surprised - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:11

@anon. That's not the point. It was the predictability with which Spectrum would trumpet this. The man resigned; why hang it all over the web? It's because Spectrum has an axe to grind. It's the smug satisfaction that oozes out of this place that bothers me - just read some of the posts.

It's not being "pushed under the rug" when the man did the right thing. It's being "pushed under the rug" if he maintained his position and the church was trying to hush things up.

glenn - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:12

"It was still predictable that Spectrum would jump all over this."

All Spectrum did was make this post. Which I might add is remarkably brief. The only editorial comments made in Alex's post are things that are irrefuteably true: he helped found GYC; he opposed women's ordination as pastors; and write several books about the Bible emphasizing a particular conservative reading. That's it.

You seem unusually sensitive.

Tom Zwemer - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:13

LSU should send a condolence message to the Michigan Conference. Tom Z.

Not Surprised - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:16

Nope - just not surprised. And saddened. This is after watching this site ooze bitterness and resentment over the years. Shame on me for even looking; it's a little like a car wreck on the side of the road - you can't help but look, and then you're sorry you did.

In the final analysis, I wonder how much doubt Spectrum will have reinforced in people's minds - how many wrecks of faith will be found on the shores of this blog.

C. Ray - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:19

anecdotally, and according to preliminary findings in an ongoing research project on clergy, there is support that pastors who commit adutery & do not step away from ministry (if only temporarily), are more likely to recommit the offense. This is why many conferences have stopped the reshufle game, Tom. It's proven to be more detrimental than redemptive. One of the issues with the pastoral "spotlight" is that it can cause one to be perceived as if (and even believe) they are infallable/untouchable. The publicity leds to the upkeep of facade and deters one from getting therapeutic help. There are some that have come back "stronger" as Aage would say, but those have usually voluntarily (or even forcefully) taken significant time from ministry.

secondly, from a professional viewpoint, pastors have a great responsibility. True, in God's eyes sin is sin. And we all sin. Sexual sin is not somehow the pennicle of perversion! However, because of the confidence inherent in the profession, sexual misconduct is one that's singled out. Just as embezzlers are not beyond redemption, that doesn't mean we make them treasurers! Psychologists, teachers, therapists and a few other professions recognize the imbalance of influence and risk of transferrence. Therefore, sexual misconduct with clients/students is held for cause for dismissal-and for some professions-loss of licensure. The role of pastor is quite similar and shouldn't be held to a LESSER professional standard--and that's not even yet factoring the added dimension of spiritual influence! Speaking from a purely professional clergy perspective, resignation was a good call.

I'll try to choose the statement of mylast point very carefully. Writing isn't always as clear as speaking and I don't want to be misconstrued as casting aspersions on this situation. I'm only speaking to the point of why Pipim resigned instead of remaining in ministry: it's not secret that much of Pipim's ministry was not very grace-based. It becomes extremely difficult to preach what and how he did when something like this happens. It's hard to continue a stone throwing ministry when it's revealed that you live in a glass house. Of course it's not much of a revelation because the Bile is pretty clear that we ALL live in the same glass neighborhood. So maybe it's just now that Pipim himself realizes/admits he lives on the same street as the rest of us

Carmen Lau - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:21

There are wrecks of faith on the shores of many blogs. There are also life rafts and shipyards for assistance in reconstruction.

BarbaraBabcock - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:22

"Don't shoot the messenger."

Barbara Babcock

glenn - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:24

"anecdotally, and according to preliminary findings in an ongoing research project on clergy, there is support that pastors who commit adutery & do not step away from ministry (if only temporarily), are more likely to recommit the offense. This is why many conferences have stopped the reshufle game, Tom. It's proven to be more detrimental than redemptive. One of the issues with the pastoral "spotlight" is that it can cause one to be perceived as if (and even believe) they are infallable/untouchable. The publicity leds to the upkeep of facade and deters one from getting therapeutic help. "

I was surprised to find out he resigned over this. But your point above seems like a good one.

C. Ray - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:31

spectrum reports on adventist news...is this not newsworthy? It was previously reported on at least 3 other adventist sites before this one. Why single out spectrum? Furthermore, the vast majority of posts express regret & a call to grace and prayer for those involved. it appears the one who really has an axe to grind is you!

Giovanni Hashimoto - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:31

My question: was it a women or man?

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C. Ray - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:33

my post above was for notsurprised

BarbaraBabcock - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:45

Why would you even ASK such a question?

RE: Giovanni Hashimoto - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:31
My question: was it a women or man?

Visit me at giovannihashimoto.com

Barbara Babcock

Ron Pickell - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:45

Dear Sam,

I was so sad to hear about this. It could have happened to any of us. We should not be shocked by our sins. Jesus said he know's what we are capable of and is not surprised by anything we do. "Satan has desired to sift us like wheat," Jesus reminded Peter.

You have been a valiant voice for truth on today's college and university campuses. I have not always agreed with what I have considered your rigid perspective and independent ministry style - but you are a true brother in Christ and I am deeply saddened for you, your family and for the thousands of students who look to you for leadership. My prayer for you is that this lapse will offer you a new vision of God's forgiving love and open the possibility for a renewed relationship with you and your family. Your letter is sincere and I am sure heartfelt. It will not erase the sin you have committed, but will go a long way toward the healing process for all involved.

You, your family and your ministry partners remain in my prayers,
Ron

Elaine Nelson - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 11:56

" this can happen to anybody."

No, to claim that "anybody" could do this. Could you? Only if this is admitted.

This does not merely "happen to anybody," anymore than embezzlement "happens" or cheating "happens." Was Eve taking the fruit something that merely happened? (The Bible does not minimize her actions. Does all sin simply "happen" without an action on someone's part? This totally minimizes sin and makes it simply an unfortunate error. You can bet that his wife didn't consider it a mere "happening."

Was Schwarzenegger's fathering a child with a housekeeper merely an unfortunate "happening"? Neither by his wife or children (one who has changed his family name). Maybe John Edwards and the former governor of. S. Carolina would approve of their escapades being considered only a "happening." Words are transparent in covering up such an action.

We have not yet been told if this was a voluntary or forced resignation. Either way, I agree with Tom that the Michigan conference owes LSU an apology for their recent actions.

Elaine

Annon - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 12:12

Sex crimes are the only things worse than thought crimes in this New Adventist World Order. If your thoughts are not aligned with those in power, be particularly aware of honey pots (I have no reason to believe that this is the case here).

Tom, it would be easy for those at LSU to gloat, and it would be human nature. But I have heard nothing but an outpouring of love and concern for all those involved in this unfortunate incident. LSU is staffed with devout sincere people who want the best for others, even those who threw stones while living in glass houses and behind curtains.

Cherilyn - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 12:14

After watching Pippim's legalistic comments in the documentary "The Last Generation," I am not surprised. It seems like the fruit of his view of God. I am never happy for anyone to fall, but sometimes in the falling, we discover a better picture of God. This is sad news, but maybe a new day for him to discover what grace looks like and maybe he'll gain a less judgmental attitude with other Christians who do not see things his way. God does not judge him and neither should we, let's pray for the grace and mercy of Jesus to restore in him a more powerful, loving ministry. God would have all his children restored!

Not Surprised - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 12:26

I single out Spectrum because of the general tone of disdain for the church that I find here - over and over and over again.

Giovanni Hashimoto - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 12:48

Just on Sunday, this little gem appeared in the Times of Swaziland on his views:

Of course, conservative theologians such as Samuel Koranteng-Pipim have the fear that failure to limit grounds for divorce on the explicit pronouncement of Jesus could be "like allowing the proverbial camel’s head under the tent" (Here We Stand, pg.504).

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glenn - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 12:33

Which is totally different than the disdain some conservatives express towards certain Adventist colleges, theologically incorrect SDA theologians, liberals, all other Protestant and Christian sects, all other forms of religion, people who live in the city, pluralism, tolerance, Christian formation, contemplative prayer, seeker-friendly churches, etc.

Steve Moran - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 12:35

Not Surprised:
The only person who has been oozing bitterness and resentment here has been you. The original article provided the facts. Those facts where based on what had been posted on the web by Pipim and the conference president.

Almost all of the comments here at Spectrum, following the story have contained not the blanket condemnations you suggest and in fact, likely wanted, to maintain your hatred, but rather they were filled with grace filled words and attitudes toward a fellow sinner. This is particularly amazing even Christ like, knowing that Pipim has had zero grace not just for the points of view made by many on Spectrum but zero grace for the people themselves. Yet in spite of this, the response has be so Christ-like that it makes my heart burst with pride.

You on the other hand have shown no grace at all. You are a mean-spirited condemning person who does not even have the courage to sign your real name. I find your posts to be the very opposite of what Christ taught and lived out. I pray that you will be converted.
In the grip of grace.

Steve Moran

Not Surprised - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 12:40

Wow. Did you just hear yourself?

Steve Moran - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 12:54

Yep! Did you hear yourself?

In the grip of grace.

Steve Moran

Jesuit Detective - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 12:56

Right diet, right music, right dress does not equal relationship with Jesus.

Elaine Nelson - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 12:57

Anyone who does not furnish his or her name, on registering, for whatever reason, should be barred from blogs; or the least that can be done is to simply ignore them as not worthy of recognition. As with most newspapers, anyone who writes a letter to the editor MUST give his true name or it goes straight to the round file. Having written many such letters, a phone no. and full address must be supplied and a phone call will verify you are the writer who signed your name, to ensure someone else has not used your name illegally.

Maybe that is something for the website editors to consider.

Elaine

Jesuit Detective - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 13:09

Elaine,

Are you talking to me?

Rm - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 13:10

Lord have mercy "according to your loving kindness and the multitude of your tender mercies"

Not Surprised - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 13:27

@glenn: you're reading things into what I'm saying that simply aren't there. You can provide nothing that would suggest that I would condone that sort of disdain, either.

George Afram - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 13:28

Pastor,
this news will be received by every person who knows u with pain and sadness. u touched many lives for eternity. The enemies of truth will not understand you no matter how you clarify it, your admirers and lovers don't need one(explanation). What you did is so wrong, but what you have said and done for Christ has always been helpful. You have been a mentor since i met you, from Yaa Asantewaa till now, even now. Today I have been reading your book, "Must we Be Silent." I hope this stumble on the way will not stop you from doing the good work you have commited to do till death. I believe God has forgiven you and who is man to worry about? May God continue to behold you, strenthen you, and lead you. Again, while the enemies will not understand you, your lovers don't need one. Keep up the faith. I wish i could be with you in such a time as this. i believe that the all Powerful Lord is with you and that is what matters, afterall. Afram

Not Surprised - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 13:29

@Steve: thanks for weighing in my conversion status. Disappointment with Spectrum must mean I'm lost. Sometimes, you guys really are the pot calling the kettle black.

pat travis - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 13:32

I would like to make a "generic point of, I suggest, truth."

The moral failure of an individual does not mean that none of the principles one stood for are/were true.

The fact that Bill Clinton had a moral failure does not mean that he never said a moral or general truth. Indeed he lost personal credibility and trustworthiness that may take years or never be regained.

To me hypocrisy is practicing a known sin while "concurently" condemning others for practicing the same.

Just trying to make a "reality check point."

Grace - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 13:36

Kenneth I don’t think what Pastor Osei-Bonsu wrote is wrong!!! What you wrote show you really have something against this man. I don’t know you guys but, please if you have any problem with Ps Osei-Bonsu please go to him that is what the Bible tells us to do. Weather he is the Dean of the school of Theology @ VVU or the GC President, all of us are sinners saved by grace and only grace not by our own power or merits. Sometimes we Ghanaians shamefully disgrace ourselves and it’s about time we stop being silly in places like this and learn to be civilized in this age and time. This is a problem that all heaven and all sincere and God fearing people are praying and crying about and you turn around being self-centered… you have started casting stones wait till you get to the end of YOUR river…

“All have sinned and have come short of the glory of God – Romans 3:23” – Kenneth Breku Amoateng, I am one of the “ALL” mentioned in this text and I hope you are one too. It is only when we see our own sinfulness that we can weep and cry when a brother or sister falls into a temptation and in this case “a trap using all the agencies of the powers of darkness” Today you are writing about Ps. Pipim and you are pointing fingers at him but remember that this will not be his end for he has confessed his sins to the world - what about you??? As a sister-in-Christ and a Ghanaian I will advise you to pray instead!!!

"Grace"

frank7 - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 13:40

Many of us have referred to this as a stumble or a temporary lapse. While such could be, it very often isn't. Affairs and sexual acting out are often part of a secret life that has been maintained over time. They are often symptoms of a host of unresolved issues going on inside that go way deeper than the reach of a "correct " intellectual theology, and often happen with men who work in isolation or in positions of little to no accountability.

My hope and prayer is that Dr. Pipim gets the help he needs to rebuild his life in authenticity, bathed in the grace of God, and in the support and fellowship of others who can help him along what will be a painful road of recovery. My prayers and sympathy also go out to his family who must be devastated at this time. May God give them strength to recover as well.

Thanks...

Frank

merethinker - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 14:05

Pastors, medical doctors, psycologists and people in positions working with voulnerable people, are educated in how to deal with and prevent "temptations" like what we are discussing.
As most SDA`s dont drink alkohol, we talk about making wise or bad choises, - not that alkohol would make the consequenses ¨less serious.
Time will show - but some signs of humility from the phd doctor and his friends would probably help a lot, not a fake try to be a prophet about own martyrdom.......

Khrystie Gyimah - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 14:42

It breaks my heart to see the devil rejoice over a fallen hero for God. Undoubtedly, this should be a lesson for each one of us who thinks and feels he/she is immuned to any kind of temptation. It's only the grace of God that sustains us and keeps us from temptation of any kind. That is why it is important for us to constantly seek Him as our source of defence in times of temptation. My prayers goes out to Pastor, his wife and children and also for the woman involved- we all need the forgiving power of God.

Steve Moran - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 15:39

Not Surprised: You came in here with a blanket condemnation of Spectrum and everyone here, just for reporting on a story that the Michigan Conference and Samuel Pipim had already released. That was unkind, unfair and unchristian. It was actually worse than that, it was mean spirited. You condemned people who were extending the hand of grace to a man who has very publicly attacked Spectrum types.

And finally you do not even have the courage of your convictions to put you own name behind your attacks. How can you claim to be a person of God, if you have to hide?

In the the grip of grace

Steve Moran

Tom Zwemer - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 15:42

Anon ?

It is not a matter of gloating. It is a matter of fair play. The entire human race is in the toilet without the
Grace of God. The best sermon I ever hear on the topic was by Pastor Paul Heubach. "He Stubbled and Fell" It was reprinted in either Ministry or The Review. I do pray for Pipim, his family, and those who found him a soruce of spiritual strength. He is paying a very steep price for a momment of folly.
It should not be a life long red A on his vestments. Never-the-less, it was the Michigan Conference that took precipitous action to place a sister institution off limits. I think the best observation would be: "But for the Grace of God go I!"

I was asked to be a consultant to the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. As I left the hotel to return to Augusta by air--as I hailed a cab a young women approached me and said: "Would you like the best run to the airport your have ever had?" I said: "Thank you young lady, but I am from Georgia,. I like to see sage brush, rocks, and sand instead of Neon."

The trust and love of a wife, three children, three grandchildren, and three great grandchilden is the best airport cab ride I have ever had.

David lived to a ripe old age, yet never with a moment he didn't recall his grave error/sin. Remorse is a deadly emotion. Let us forgive Pipim and be charitable to the Michigan Conference as ego centric they may be. Tom Z.

Darrell C - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 15:59

I don't think it is about gloating. None of us are 'holier than thou' that we should be pointing fingers at Dr. Pipim for any short comings that happen. If half of our thoughts were laid bare before the world, we'd probably be anathema to virtually everybody except the most depraved! It is not in his moral shortcomings where we find fault with Dr. Pipim.

The point I think that some are trying to make is that Dr. Pipim has spent much of his career making SDA molehills into mountains. Preaching the necessity of sinless perfection and holy living to a nit-picking fault, making certain lifestyle issues of salvific importance and berating those who aren't living up to the 'holy' lifestyle of what being a 'good SDA' is all about. Then we hear about this!

It is bad enough when evangelists like Jimmy Swaggart fall prey to the sexual temptations he railed about. It is even worse when someone practically calls your salvation into importance because you want to ordain women, wear jewelery, listen to contemporary music or go to movies and then commits a sin that really should be the focus of what 'holy living' is about.

Do I think he should resign? Perhaps not.

But I really think he should be focusing his ministry now on less fault finding and Pharisaic living and more on what being a Christian is all about. He needs to change his legalistic emphasis on those things that don't mean much in the grand scheme of a Christian's experience.

Not Surprised - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 16:27

@Steve:

Perhaps you missed my point. It was not "I hate the people at Spectrum," it was "not surprised." I instinctively knew that Spectrum would be quick to run the story - and was right. And the story was sure to enumerate points of difference the author had with Pipim: conservative understanding of the Bible, opposed to women's ordination.

Now look through the posts again. I agree, there are lots of statements of regret and compassion. But there is also a thread, barely veiled, that suggests that it must/may have been because he was conservative.

"My hope and prayer is that Dr. Pipim gets the help he needs to rebuild his life in authenticity." Was he inauthentic in his convictions?

"After watching Pippim's legalistic comments in the documentary "The Last Generation," I am not surprised. It seems like the fruit of his view of God."

"We have not yet been told if this was a voluntary or forced resignation. Either way, I agree with Tom that the Michigan conference owes LSU an apology for their recent actions." Let's assume the worst. And of course, this must somehow invalidate Michigan conference's convictions.

"My question is - Is this man still an Adventist?"

"Does his fall have to do with his ultra-conservative views on lifestyle, music, theology? Maybe. I think we are all extremists and mono-maniacs when we lose sight of Jesus and engage in this silly, pathetic bickering about minor issues."

"Was resignation his idea or was it an offer he couldn't refuse?" Again, let's cast even further question over his character.

"Having the "right" opinions about 1844, Ellen White and creationism is so more important than being true to your wife." No hint of sarcasm there.

"My question: was it a women or man?" He must be hiding something else, right?

"No wonder birds of the same ........ fly together. You will crucify a woman for wearing ear rings but will pray for a womanizer. shame on you." Very gracious.

"If Pipim, instead of offending sexually, had beaten his wife or been abusive to his employees or been a cabinet minister in Mugabe's government chances are he would still be in good and regular standing with the church."

Steve, take a look through Spectrum's posts - not just today's, but sample a year's worth, and ask yourself some honest questions. Nobody here has an axe to grind? There is not a thread of bitterness against the church? The articles are truly worded neutrally? The articles about Ted Wilson are merely reporting?

Your assumption that I am ungracious or unsaved because I have grown weary of the negativity towards the church and/or conservatives underlines a sharp us/them tendency at Spectrum. It affirms my suspicions.

With regard to my name, I'd post it if I honestly believed this was a safe place to do it. Rest assured that my convictions are real, and the hurt I experience watching people here attack church leadership is real. But I have seen enough quote-mining and ruthless dissection of people here to make me question the wisdom of handing this community my name on a platter. I may not be a well-known church figure, but I suspect that would quickly change in this place.

Khrystie Gyimah - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 16:39

Kenneth pray that you dont fall (be it adultery or embezzlement)...but if you do and have a genuine repentant spirit, you will have pity of someone who is trying to regain a relationship with God and his family. If we all had the courage to come public with even the simpliest sin as lying, we will be more compassionate to a fallen brother. In my opinion, this is an honorable thing to do.....He that is without sin, let him throw the first stone.

Alexander Carpenter - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 16:41

I've been generally impressed with the tenor of the conversation thus far. It looks like we have one or anonymous folks appearing in an attempt to egg on the Spectrum community to conform to their stereotype. Bitterness? Sure there are some comments along that line, but anyone who then invokes Spectrum, and my name, needs to actually quote from my words or the words of the actual articles that we post here. There's just no bitterness there.

On the other hand, we allow anyone to comment, which is sometimes hard for Adventists to understand. This is our church when we actually let anyone to have their say. Really. It's not always pretty and believe me, we at Spectrum cringe at many of the comments too—because they are so mean, so anti-Adventism, and yes, sometimes so dumb. But, as my grandpa says, that's the way life is.

If you don't like the comments here, then write your own and show us a better way. In fact, Not Surprised, I hope that you feel safe and I trust that most people will treat you with respect. But on the other hand, one of the major tenets of being a part of any social group is that we cannot judge everyone by the actions of a few.

Anyone who attacks us for posting this is in denial about how all communities function. I had communications regarding this from high and low in the church wondering what I had heard. People will talk—why not frame even unfortunate news respectfully and seek to grow together from this experience? After all, Spectrum does spring from the academic side of the church where we are encouraged to have frank, adult conversations about the real world. It's not for everyone, but it's also not wrong.

For me, a larger question is: how do we continue to form (reform?) a church in ways that connect our beliefs to our actual behaviors in ways that lead away from hypocrisy to something like actual ethics?

Geo S. Believer - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 17:18

Nicely said, Alex. Thanks for that articulate expression of a well-functioning community.

KWASI OSEI AGYEMAN - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 17:28

One of the hardest lesson we will ever learn is how to take a negative situation and turn it unto positive one.Every negative events contains within it the seed of an equal or greater benefit,so Pastor let Psalm 51 be your prayers.My family are with you in prayers.I know our merciful GOD would keep you and the family.

Elaine Nelson - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 17:51

Alexander, your comments are appreciated and the openness that the Spectrum blog allows for everyone. Being open to all seems to encourage the harshest comments are by those who post anonymously or with a pseudonym. Is this encouraged? What if every poster chose a pseudonym? Would it be allowed? When those who do so hide by refusing to use their given name it appears to encourage more derogatory comments either personally or directed against Spectrum. Why is this allowed, even encouraged?

Approximately 11 pseudonyms have been used 26 times on this one thread. Is this an epidemic? Or is it merely endemic to such blogs?

Elaine

Fay Crombie - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 17:57

I live in forest fire country and this kind of activity that is on this blog thread is akin to creating a 'back burn'

Geo S. Believer - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 18:11

Prediction: it won't stick. I've noticed that if someone is a strong and smart conservative who defends the church's most traditional ideas, they almost always get rehabilitated quickly. He will come back even more arrogant and accusatory than he has been.

OPOKU A DONKOR - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 18:19

The devil will never relent in his effort to lead even the elect astray. This incident has confirmed the fact that we are sinners and for that matter, there is none righteous .It is irrefutable fact that we are all fallible. In times like this,what gives me hope is the Marvelous Grace of our loving God...the grace that is greater than our sin.I think this is the right time to show we are CONVERTED Christians by supporting our friend and brother in prayers. My candid advice to all is that we should try to guide our environment against all sins ,for we are in the midst of foes and a cloud of witness who are constantly in full survey of what ever we do...We should seek not repose..We should watch and pray........

Jack T. - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 18:47

"Luk 9:55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of." to those who are rejoicing.

"Pro 24:16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief." to Dr. Pipim.

hopeful 2011 - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 18:52

 Pippim's own prescription for his case. All that follows is from
 “DON’T JUDGE ME!”
The Gospel of Tolerance vs. Church Discipline 
By
© Samuel Koranteng-Pipim, Ph.D.
http://www.drpipim.org/seminar-handouts-contemporaryissues-101/122-dont-...

But we must point out that any society or group that is indifferent to truth is morally bankrupt, for it is unwilling or incapable of discerning right from wrong. Any church that stoops to this level of indifference will inevitably invite God's judgment upon its members: "God holds His people, as a body, responsible for the sins existing in individuals among them. If the leaders of the church neglect to diligently search out the sins which bring the displeasure of God upon the body, they become responsible for these sins" (Testimonies for the Church, 3:269).

    This is why the Seventh-day Adventist church ought to take church discipline very seriously. Unfortunately, those who have embraced the gospel of tolerance do not believe in church discipline, nor the reasons for it. 

                    REASONS FOR CHURCH DISCIPLINE

    Let me quote from our Church Manual, page 184:

    "Among the grievous sins for which members shall be subject to church discipline are the following:
...

3. Violation of the seventh commandment of the law of God as it relates to the marriage institution, the Christian home, and biblical standards of moral conduct.

4. Such violations as fornication, promiscuity, incest, homosexual practice, sexual abuse of children and vulnerable adults, and other sexual perversions, and the remarriage of a divorced person, except of the spouse who has remained faithful to the marriage vow in a divorce for adultery or for sexual perversions.
...

    “In a case of transgression of the commandments of God where there is deep repentance and full and free confession, giving evidence that genuine conversion has taken place, the church may administer discipline by placing the transgressor under censure for a stated period of time.

    "However, in a case of flagrant violations of the law of God which have brought public reproach upon the cause, the church may deem it necessary, even though a sincere confession has been made, to remove an individual from church membership to protect its name and its Christian standards. Later, when it is evident that the individual's life is consistent with church standards, the offender may be received back into the fold after rebaptism. The church cannot afford to deal lightly with such sins nor permit personal considerations to affect its actions. It must register its decisive and emphatic disapproval of the sins of fornication, adultery, all acts of moral indiscretion, and other grievous sins; at the same time it must do everything to restore and reclaim the erring ones. As the world continually grows more lax in moral matters, the church must not lower the standards set by God" (Seventh-day Adventist Church Manual, p. 184). emphasis added

Habakkuk - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 18:54

No matter how hard the devil try, he is defeated. Pastor, God is still with you what God Has giving you will help finish the work. Victory is at the end and we will get there. Peace be with you. Today is one of the days I will never forget.

Father Pinochet - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 19:17

My son, it is time to come home.

Fay Crombie - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 19:22

Good things begin to happen when we get exhausted from dancing to the tune of shame, even if it's the tune that we created.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XY01cp8XUo&sns=fb

Your Friend - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 19:26

"Not surprised that Spectrum Blog/Alexander Carpenter jumped on this." Nor am I.
The event does not lessen my admiration for his skillful exposes of so much that the liberals promote. I did not agree with everything that he wrote but with the majority of what I read.

pastorroger - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 20:09

I think we should all pray for the family, the people involved and the church, but most of all we should pray for ourselves, for "the but by the grace of God go I".

Mike MacLennan - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 20:39

May Dr. Pipim find comfort in the assurance that "if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteouness." And every one of us can never get beyond praying the Lord's prayer "Give us this day our daily bread and FORGIVE US OUR SINS, AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO SIN AGAINST US."
Dr. Pipim has confessed his sins to God, and to the church and so those of us in the church need to extend grace and forgiveness to him, like the Lord's prayer admonishes us to do.
The words of Jesus to the Pharisees "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone" is relevant to us in the church. Jesus said that if a man lusts after a woman in his heart he has committed adultery. So who am I to condemn my brother? The highest place that we can attain is at the foot of the cross.
May we all rejoice in the imputed merits of Christ that are credited to the believer the moment we believe and at every step in our Christian walk with Him. Despite our stumblings we are God's children still. The important thing is to get up and to keep our eyes on Jesus.

joerants - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 20:51

I am deeply saddened that people would go into lengths to really nail the man even after he had come clean, it really makes me wonder if we're still heaven bound? I mean think about; Should Jesus right now appear in the skies would we be caught up with Him? For some reason I doubt just reading all this it's like we're happy that he fell for some and others are defending. Well we all have fallen short, NO ONE in here has not fallen short and NO ONE here is immune to sin, personally I have met Dr Sam and have a healthy relationship with him and I think less of him as a minister, theologian and thinker; I believe that what really defines a man isn't his actions but its how he deals with his actions and he has taken responsibility for it and let's move on people

The work has not stopped in the field, there are still souls to be reaped for the kingdom, Jesus is coming again!

Kenneth Breku amoatweng - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 20:52

Go and marry him for he has been doing the same with you at Backckock university in Nigeria

joerants - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 20:59

You sound bitter my friend; just think of what the psalmist said; If God kept a record of all our iniquity who then can stand?

I really doubt you can stand even though I don't know you.

Breku amoatweng - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 20:59

To Khrystie Gyimah,
Who made him a hero. Stop praising sin and lift up what the cross stands for. what about the victim in this case. I mean the Man or Pipim was with.

Maame - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 21:07

I think we are all human and at times there are temptations come our way and we try our very best to for go it but it turns out hard to resist. By saying this I don't mean Pastor was right in doing that but one thing that I know is he has done the right thing. There are so many Adventist pastors who have gone through a moral fall and still is in the ministry pointig out others wrong. I know people will be pointing fingers at him but he has settled his case with God and his family which is the most important thing in all this. God is the Almighty judge and He is the only one who sees beyond what is within us so please do not try to judge Pastor but rather pray for him and his family so everything that they will do will be a blessing.Even though he might have wounded so many people, we should keep up the faith so we will all not be found wanting. My last thing is "he who has no sin let him cast the first stone".

Kwasi - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 21:13

To grace:

I do not think you are addressing the issue. This man claims to be the man of God who intentionally unzipped his pants with a man or woman we do not know. Nobody forced him into this act. And we are being sympathetic for him for unzipping his pant, give me a break Do not be a hipocrate and call a spade a spade and let him know that what he did was wrong. Do not cover up or adore sin just because he is from Ghana and a pastor. We speak against clapping of hands in the church but will not speak against adultery and fornication. Shame on you GRACE. To Pastor Osei-bonsu he should pray for the man or woman Pipim slept with and not only Pipim. This is my opinion and if you do not like it go to hell

kwaku - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 21:21

Maame pray for the woman or man he had that moment with. How did you know God had settled with him. This is hypocracy. "My last thing is "he who has no sin let him cast the first stone" is a childish excuse to commit sin by sleeping with a man or woman. Nothing from Pipim's letter shows that he is sorry for what he did instead narrating all his achievements for people to have sympathy with him. This is nonsense and speak the truth and the truth will set you free.

Maame - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 21:23

I'm not saying this just because I am a ghanaian...its true he has sinned but I'm not in the right position to judge him. What ever he did is between him and his God and if he sincerely confess his sins I know God will forgive him but the others pointing at him, are they pure without any sins?this a question to think about...!!

frank7 - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 21:49

"My hope and prayer is that Dr. Pipim gets the help he needs to rebuild his life in authenticity." Was he inauthentic in his convictions?

*********************

@Not Surprised...

You miss my point. One can certainly be passionate about their theological and doctrinal convictions but not have grace and truth (and I mean truth on the level of the inner life and its outworking in personal ethics ) penetrate into the heart of one's private life and personal relationships. I'm not saying that this is necessarily true concerning Dr. Pipim. But, the moral breakdown of an affair is often an indicator of deeper, relational issues going on that haven't been addressed and need time to be brought into the light and healed. IOW, it is frequently not just a momentary lapse.

If this is the case, then an authentic rebuilding would be necessary on a personal level. I said before, that I hope and pray that he would get the help and support he needs to be healed. No malice intended.

Thanks...

Frank

joseph duah - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 22:01

May the good [LORD] forgives and save the whole life of you and your family again.
GOD knows your truely heart by speaking out the truth.Pray for him andthe family.
Well, PIPIM is on the floornow and everybody knows...the quastion is [what about tou?]

Joseph k Duah - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 22:12

May the good [Lord] forgives the whole family and power [Pipim] back
into the ministry.Dr Pipim pour his heart out and said the truth,i surely
known he have being for given.Everybody should pray for him and the family.

hopeful 2011 - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 22:24

August 1 has been designated as Clergy Sexual Abuse Awareness & Prevention DayTM, an event to be celebrated with various activities throughout the month of August. Clergy sexual abuse (also known as misconduct and exploitation) is a prevalent problem in every denomination around the globe. Our goal is to raise awareness of the issue of clergy sexual abuse and its devastating and destructive effects on individual lives, congregations and religion as a whole.

This campaign is necessary because the issue of clergy sexual abuse is little understood by most people. Education and awareness are essential in both prevention and healing.

News reports abound about spiritual leaders having an "affair" with a teen or adult, male or female. The term "abuse" is rarely used in the media, though it needs to be understood and labeled as such. Will you join us in telling the world that Enough IS Enough?

http://www.clergysexualabuseawarenessday.com/
http://www.thehopeofsurvivors.com/about_us.asp

Fay Crombie - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 23:08

i agree Frank 7..".temporary lapse"....jumped out at me, indicating that we are listening to a somewhat sanitized story

joerants - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 23:54

Alright, let's move on; the work awaits in the field! The harvest is plenty but the labourers are few!!!

victor - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 23:58

This is a personal tragedy for those directly involved, our thoughts are indeed with them.

That the circumstance is so publicly discussed is worthy of reflection.

Custom and practice has been to deal with these events discreetly. The motive has been to bring the least public condemnation, to minimise exposure of the family, to preserve the honour of ministry and an element of face saving for the church. In this we risk the charge of cover-up. We also risk exposure to secondary conspiratorial gossip.

In this case we have the Minister publicising his own resignation, misadventure and apology to his own constituency, along with the Presidents letter to his constituency ourlining the time line of management, on the CAMPUS website which is presumably owned by the Michigan Conference.

One has to question whether this really is a better way of doing things?

Are those centrally involved better served for the publicity?
Is ministry better served through explicit exposure?
Is the church / cause better served through this level of 'openness'?
Do we get an appropriate balance between the humility of humanity and pride in the boldness of confession?
Is the Conference President better served for publishing his six days with a six shooter?
Where was the evidence Pastoral care and Support of the family with time for reflection?
Is this overt approach designed to keep the Michigan agenda on track?
Is this the face of Macho managerial behaviourism from which no one is safe?
Is the strategy - Quick Confession with Quick Reinstatement?
Will there be a humble recognition that intense behaviourism leads to divisiveness?
Will leadership take time to Reflect and Reconsider?

Steve - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 00:30

It is sad to read of this, but I also cannot consider him a hapless victim. Had this been somebody else the good doctor would not be as charitable. I cannot help but feel the most sympathy for those charred along the way and forced from the church for much more minor non-salvific issues by those who hung on his every judgemental word. So while sad, this exposure and removal of a vocally dissonant hypocrite presents the greatest opportunity for healing.

Steve - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 00:34

In short the emperor was naked. I wonder how many left the church or were forced out as a direct result of his fanaticism and that of his followers?

Akosua - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 03:19

Please all those who want to gloat over should bow their heads in shame,this is not the time or the avenue to crtiscize to man of God!!He said he has fallen,he didnt say what exactly lets wait for the full details of the reason for his resignation!!The word of God says his grace is sufficient for all of us,as christians we should know better that we shoul uplift eact other in times as these,not be quick to pass comments!!!
Lt us all live up to the standards of the bible and remember that no man is perfect!!

Nicole - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 03:41

There are many prayers that can and should be uttered at this moment and every moment in the life of the Christian and of the church. A prayer for one does not preclude prayers for others.

My prayer for Dr Pipim is that this trauma in his own life, that of his family, the other party and the church will lead him to a deeper understanding of the basis on which he has already been fully and freely forgiven. Not because of a commitment to greater vigilance, not because of clinging more tightly to "our distinctive message" or even because of the sincerity of his contrition. The offense is too great, grace cannot be purchased so cheaply! And not only this offense, but every human sin and in particular my own, far greater sins are infinitely costly. Forgiveness is ours because of Jesus alone, who extends forgiveness even to those who know not what they do: "Jesus paid it all. All to him I owe. Sin had left a crimson stain, he washed it white as snow."

Having understood this, my further prayer is that Dr Pipim, myself and each and every other Christian saved by grace is that we will walk each and every day remembering the Parable of the Unmerciful Servant (Matthew 18:21-35) and knowing that only those without sin are qualified to throw stones and He would rather utter words of forgiveness and grace anyway!

Alex - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 03:50

It seems like right wingers who burden us with being perfect aren't perfect themselves after all.

While I do admire pipim's zeal for youth ministry, he should not have been pimpin' around and burdening thousands of young people with his far right theology.

I hope and pray that he learns something about grace, and how we all are fallen and come short and it is only through His grace that we all grow, while we lovingly support each other.

Carmen - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 03:53

I hope he finds REAL GRACE....not something he talks about, but something he experiences.

Renee Hernandez - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 03:55

I really do not know this man..but as a founder of the perfectionist GYC group it is interesting to see this occur. Perhaps his views will change now. So many people who focus on sins instead of Jesus have situations like this...& by the way I love the song Freebird ! Inna-gadda-da-vida not so much:)

Renee Hernandez

Jorge Orozco - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 03:59

So sad. Really Sad.
I rejoice in all the support letters from people that made clear do not support his theology, but in his hour of need pray for him and all the parts involved.

Sadly, and as Geo S. comments, is to read that Pipim is still not carefull making limit marks beteween 'they and us'.

I really hope Pipim reflects in the signals he is sending by writing:
"Undoubtedly, my resignation will be greeted with deep sorrow and hurt by those of you who have known me and worked closely with me. On the other hand, others who have always opposed what we stand for will have an additional reason to rejoice. For this, I am deeply sorry"

So I wonder, because I won't dare to say that he thinks this, I really hope not. Is he saying that He needs grace and understading from others, but he won't give grace and understading to others that have oppsed against his thology?

If the case was the other way around, if a Pastor that oppoed his theology and ministry would have felt morally, would he have rejoiced in that? I wonder.

I hope he gets a greater understanding of what Grace is, and learn to see who is adventist or not through the eyes of God's grace.

merethinker - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 04:09

"A man of God" - some say.
In my opinion we are all men and women of God, his jewels, as we teach in children`s sabbath school.
Still no one are perfect. And still he loves all of us - including muslims, budhists and roman catholic`s. Even Ellen White is clear on this in the book Desire of Ages.

Pipim has not said much or revealed the "whole story" in his letter, but let us all remind ourselves about what happened in the roman catholic chuch when they tried to put things under the carpet with the priests and the abuse, These things need to be dealt with, We always need to clean up - also under carpets. While the dust is under the carpet, it seems to grow. Not dealing with sexual issues and keep quiet maybe because other leaders might feel unworthy, is love misunderstood.

The problem with this story is maybe not so much what Pipim is doing on his travels or not, it is that we keep discussing clapping in church, drums and coffee while so many people defend major moral issues to not be officially dealt with. I dont want a church like this! And come on, this is really not about rejoicing or throwing stones. We all would really like nobad thingst to happen at all.

Hope and mercy

Jag - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 04:43

Pipim has always been quick to condemn others if they did something that in his idiosyncratic interpretation of the Bible was wrong. Let's hope that he will now be able to see that in the real world things are never as black or white as he had chosen to believe. If he learns from this experience and realises that other people's views, perspectives and interpretations are as valid as (and certainly not inferior to) other people's then at least some good will result from the evil he has caused by his mistaken preaching over the years - and I consider his teaching to be much more evil that his sexual incontinence..

Osei Tutu anthony - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 04:59

Most of us will understand God's love and the Grace issue very much when we see Him. This world is like a and our lives serves as research objects, which we are looking into it base on the literature 'Holy Bible'. Christian life will mostly have such locations but the beauty is when God help you to see your location and the need to change. Pastor GNAAS is with you in Prayers, God loves you.

Your Friend - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 05:33

Alexander Carpenter - Wed, 06/01/2011 - 16:41
"I've been generally impressed with the tenor of the conversation thus far."
Sorry, Alex, Not Surprised has shown how slanted your observations are. Shouldn't proclaimed intellectuals also pride themselves on objectivity? As the conversation has continued it has become more vicious. Nothing is gained by crucifying Dr. Pipim; however, many comments show how a side of human nature that obviously gloats when a strong man falls. Shame on those who engage is such demeaning behavior.

If and when one of the libs experiences a fall it will be interesting to see how Carpenter and company relate to it. Dr. Pipim, many are praying for you.

Jim Roberts - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 05:35

joerants posted,

"Alright, let's move on; the work awaits in the field! The harvest is plenty but the labourers are few!!!"

Yes, few laborers...the managers ( ministers) are not training the listeners to work (GW 197)

The Christian's struggle -- "For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but HOW to perform that which is good I find not." (Rom 7:18)

Some find the answer for HOW in what is in GW 196-199

Some of the strongest language (termination) is addressed to ministers is in GW 197.

Until the ministers are reformed...it will only get worse.

Jorge O. - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 05:40

Your Friend.

I hope you realize that you contradict your own point. The theology behind the man was demanding the very same thing you are saying not to demand from him..

????????

Alex - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 05:48

I hope, I just hope that we would not begin to justify our ungodliness by this event. For God will judge each one of us by what we do, not by what he does. Therefore, let's be circumspect for Satan lurks around seeking for who may be his next toast!
Wake up guys; don't be carried away.

Kwabena Antwi - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 05:51

Sometimes we feel we are adequate and we rely on our own strength to overcome sin and make our way to Heaven. It is by grace and nothing at all. This is a lesson to all of us. Always be VIGILANT. More grace to you, Pastor.

Kwabena Antwi - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 05:53

Thanks Pastor. I know the target is not Dr Pipim but the lives he has influenced. Satan knows that by attacking him the youth will be disheartened and let off- guard

Joselito Coo - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 06:05

Based on the comments of Ghanaians who post on this site, won't it be of interest for us to learn what form of discipline would be appropriate for a man of Dr Pipim's international stature if this were left for our Ghanaian SDA brothers and sisters in North America, UK, and in Ghana to decide? Will they treat Sam Pipim with more grace (tolerance, leniency) than the average Ghanaian SDA member? I lived in Ghana for 6 months while serving as a volunteer staff in one of our SDA hospitals there. Some ethical issues arose during my brief stint in the country and, needless to say, I couldn't persuade them I was right and they were wrong!;)

Nana Osei Kwadwo
(Nana means "chief" or "elder" and Kwadwo means "Monday" because I was born on that day. Kofi means "Friday" as in Kofi Anan, former UN Sec Gen.)

Donna Haerich - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 06:12

I share this sonnet I wrote some time ago - not to make a point - but to add to the discussion. Men can often separate and compartmentalize sexual activity. Seldom is this the case with women.

To those who take the bible literally, Eve will always be the temptress - the one responsible for sin.

A RIGHTEOUS MAN

He was a virtuous and an honorable man
True to his commitments and his vows. And he
Would never break a prohibition or a ban
A man of righteous morals and integrity.

But she was there, desirable and desired.
It would be a momentary lapse, a brief diversion
Devoid of the emotional involvement required
Of an affair or extramarital excursion.

Had he not read about a hungry man somewhere
Who justifiably did eat forbidden bread?

He said the necessary words and breathed a prayer
And once relieved he quickly rose and left her bed
Satisfied in feeling neither loss or gain
In the shower he would wash her down the drain.

Geo S. Believer - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 06:19

Within six months he'll be declared to be on a track to repentance and rehabilitation. Within a year someone will have engaged him for some kind of church work again. Give it two years, and he'll be writing books and be as judgmental as ever.

Accuse me of the rankest cynicism, but would you be entirely surprised?

KWABENA OPOKU - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 06:27

I think you still know that Dr Pipim is not an angel....He is still a human being and for that matter fallible.I dont wanna believe you are a Christian....If you are, then what you should do is to pray for your brethren when in times like this.HIPOCRATE

Darrell C - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 06:34

It amazes me how easy to forgive a sexual indiscretion many conservatives are with one of their own. Your Friend seems to still hold Dr. Pipim on a pedestal. His message is akin to "Hey we shouldn't beat the man down! Shame on all of you for calling the man out! Pastor we are praying for you!" My question would be, would Your Friend and others have the same 'forgiving' spirit if it were one of our liberal/progressive leaders who fell? I doubt it. If I may wax eloquent like CityLights at this moment, the conservatives would be grinning from ear to ear and stoking the fires of the Inquisition even hotter knowing that their reasoning that abandoning the pillars of the church will lead to gross sin, is confirmed.

The hypocrisy is sad.

Here are people who rail against those who hold differing beliefs, calling their SDA membership and even their salvation into question because of what they perceive as 'backsliding' and 'apostasy' in the church. Yet when one of their own commits a serious offense against God, well, 'he is only a sinful human after all! Let's not pound the man down!'

Pipim should be forgiven. We should not beat the man down. We are sinful ourselves. This is all true. Nonetheless the blatant hypocrisy and 'straining at gnats while swallowing a camel' mindset of the cultic conservative must be pointed out.

Again, I pray that this incident will soften Pipim's and his followers' cultic mindset of making issues of meat, dress, dance and other minor issues of salvific importance and be more tolerant and aware of what the important issues of Christianity are.

Second Opinion - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 06:48

In the words of one song: "We all break the same." The good news is that grace is freely available to all. But accessing truth and healing in situations like this involves taking a very personal and authentic journey into one's own brokenness as well as into the grace of God. Courage to Dr. Pipim on that journey, as it is never an easy or quick one. We are "broken" when things break publicly. But our true "brokenness" runs deep and wide and should never be mistaken as a single event or momentary lapse.

I also note with sadness, as have others, that Dr. Pipim continues to use phrases like "others who have always opposed what we stand for will have an additional reason to rejoice" and "to have let the Lord down and given His enemies cause for rejoicing." Not only does he continue to consider those who have opposed his views as "enemies" of the Lord, he continues - even in this moment - to place himself in a separate camp, not like those other "enemies" of God's cause but merely a fallen soldier for truth. It's understandable that this is his view now. I just hope, for his sake, it's not where he ends up.

Ransford Anto-Mensah - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 07:10

We must remember that our leaders are also HUMANS and are fallible. Dr Pipim, I really cherish you and nothing can change that. The bible says the righteous shall fall seven times and shall rise seven times. Its my prayer that the Lord will strengthen him and his family and all those who looked up to him. I pray for his return to the ministry. LET US WATCH AND PRAY

Akosah - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 07:26

I really like your bible quotes on this issue and your conclusion of the matter. God be our refuge and shield in times of troubles.

glenn - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 07:32

So, Must We Be Silent?

glenn - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 07:33

Sorry, meant to direct this to Your Friend and Not Surprised:

Must We Be Silent?!

MAAME YAA - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 07:36

i was very much alarmed and overwhelmed when i heard what has happened to Dr. Pipim and am still even in shock. i admit that some of opinions about certain biblical and church beliefs were too rigid but he is a man who has led so many people to the Lord. therefore i pray that the lord gives him a second stand to make amends through his son Jesus Christ. to those of us who are criticizing him for being a hypocrite and calling him names ,lets remember that blessed is the merciful. to the unknown young lady and SKP, God will forgive you all your sins so please do not give up your faith.I really got to know the Lord through the bible lecture series of Dr Pipim when i was an undergraduate in KNUST,Ghana.Critics should not rejoice at the fall of a man of God,only a pharisee will do that. Rather lets pray for HIM but especially his family both abroad and in Ghana.

adwoa - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 07:38

Maame,
If you are not adoring sin then what are you saying. Is there a smaller sin before god? the guy has done something which is an embarassing to the cross and he need to be told and not to praise sin

MAAME YAA - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 07:39

sorry, i meant second chance

Mrs D of Cherrybrook - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 07:41

It's so sad to think that this man started drinking coffee. And that he chose to do so without the knowledge of his family. I can't imagine the shame he must have felt as he waited for the barista to complete his order, but that is a choice that he has made and must now live with, even if God does forgive the truly repentant sinner. I once worked as a waitress and even though I know it wasn't me drinking the beverage I feel responsible for the thousands of coffees I took to people's tables. God's grace is a constant comfort when I think of this time of my life when I was rebelling against him.

This is a timely reminder to all of us that we must take care in our diet in order to be ready for Jesus Second Coming. Ye know not the hour.

Dr Pipim's ministry has been so important, and it's a pity he's proven himself to be a sham in this way. Maybe it was his insistence that even hot chocolate has traces of caffeine that led him to be tempted in this way? We will never know, but I will certainly spend a few days speculating and praying for God to bring clarity into my heart on this matter.

adwoa - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 07:42

To Maame Yaa

Nobody is rejoicing at his fall but to make make it look like Pipim is a victim is nonsense. He knew the temptation and he went to sleep with whatever being a man or a woman. You all must be ashamed to support sin

MAAME YAA - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 07:47

@ adwoa: i do not adore sin and no sin is greater than the other.but am saying is that for a man who had led thousands to the Lord, its unfortunate to see him in such a situation. i agree he needs to be shown the errors of his ways but some of us are rejoicing because of his fall.lets pray him and the lady and the entire family. it is unchristian like to rejoice at a someone's be he a pastor,church elder or a member of the congregation.

Jorge O. - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 08:24

To Mrs D of Cherrybrook.

Drinking coffe is not a sin...

Please do not compare drinking coffee with a moral Fall.

just me - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 08:25

Dear merethinker!
Dr Pipim like anybody he is human being,weakness is part of our human nature. He was a pastor and has the duty and obligations to mention all the standards of one being an adventist.
I wish at this time we all take time to pray for him,his family and the other unknown person as he asked us
He has done great thing and as fact,he noticed his shortfall and stand to repent and resign, how many of us falling here and there??

May GOD be with him,forgive his sins and restrength for greater work ahead.
GOD BE WITH ME AND EVERYBODY,HEAL MY WOUNDED SPRIT AND BLESS MY GOOD DEEDS.
IN JESUS NAME AMEN

Kofi Asiamah - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 08:33

Your prayers and mine! The devil is waging great wars against men and women of God. What you and I need to do is to support them with our prayers everytime. They need devine strength and guidance just as they work hard for you and I.
We also need to accept that these men and women like Dr Pipim are mortals; they're not the ultimate standards. The Ultimate Standard is Jesus who's commissioned Dr Pipim to do His work. I've prayed for Dr Pipim and hope you do the same for him in his very troubling time. God bless you as you do so.

joerants - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 08:37

How long are we going to keep on discussing this? If anything this incident that has befallen Dr Sam should be an example to all of us, that we are also subject to the same. Whatever transpired between Dr Sam and the other person its really now between God and them, he has done his part in coming out in the open with this and exposed this. In a way some years ago a GC president Elder Folkenberg got himself tangled in a controversial situation and for the sake of the work and protecting the movement he resigned. I don't remember people calling for his head, even to this day he appears on 3ABN. Is it because Dr Sam is of another race? Perhaps its another discussion that would take another direction.

All in all, David, Moses, Solomon, Abraham, Jacob fell along the way, they went through a process of repentance and God eventually restored them and they became even more powerful than ever. God is the ultimate Judge of all things, nothing is hidden in His sight, He rules with Grace and Mercy in which none of here deserve. Let God be God, for the LORD is in His holy temple and let all the earth keep silent before Him.

Personally I don't care what he did, yes in his stature as a minister he wounded alot of people, but I look forward to the day when we shall all be caught up in heaven and then we shall see and all shall be revealed and I want to pray that Dr Sam will be there to share his testimony amongst others about what saving grace really means and that noone is far from the grasps of it thereof.

In all of this I am reminded when Peter walked on water...although he sank, but the most powerful miracle there was that he cried out to Jesus and He pulled Peter out and they walked together and look where Peter ended...

Jesus is coming again dear saints; don't be caught writing a negative in this blog.

Sean Pitman - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 09:00

I appreciate the generally positive comments for my fallen brother Sam Pipim. This is a loss, not only for our Church, but for each one of us as individuals. While such activity, even if one is truly repentant, should not be tolerated in positions of leadership, and Pipim has rightly resigned his position of leadership, we are all children of a forgiving God. We have all fallen in grievous ways and we all need a Savior. None of us can stand in moral judgment without condemning ourselves. May God continue to heal us all as individuals and as a Church family.

Sean Pitman

Geo S. Believer - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 09:14

Mrs. D. of Cherrybrook, please tell me you're not for real.

C. Ray - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 09:22

clearly Mrs. D was being sarcastic...obviously several aren't able to read that

Akosah - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 09:24

Take it easy. Why be so harsh on the man. Blessed is he who confesses and forsakes his sins for he shall obtain mercy. God's hand is not too short to save this man and even you. A sinner saved by grace.

frank7 - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 09:27

however, many comments show how a side of human nature that obviously gloats when a strong man falls.

******************

@ Your Friend....

Your description of Dr. Pipim reveals part of the problem. He was not a strong man. At heart, none of us are. But, doctrinal posturing and public theological militancy often give the appearance of such. So does perfectionistic theology. It seriously underestimates human weakness and brokeness, and seriously overestimates the idea of human perfectability in this life.

The reality is that Dr. Pipim has clay feet ,and is in desperate need of grace and support like the rest of us...no matter what our theological hobbyhorses may be.

Thanks...

Frank

Munene - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 09:32

This is a sad moment for Pipim and his family, including the church family and especially our young people who held him as their model. However the bible instructs us to weep with those who are weeping. Let us weep and pray for our brother not forgetting we can too can face temptations. We love you and please hold your head above the waters.

frank7 - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 09:35

I don't remember people calling for his head, even to this day he appears on 3ABN. Is it because Dr Sam is of another race?

******************

Please don't play that card! Maybe it's because Dr. Pipim had a ministry that focused on us vs. them, one that could hardly be called gracious. He still is characterizing those who disagree with his conservative views as enemies. Thus, it seems to be more of a case that with the measure with which you judge others, you will be judged. rather than anything having to do with race.

Yet, whether or not I find his message and methods disagreeable, I believe he should be shown grace and offered help to recover from his problems...as well as his family.

Thanks...

Frank

Robert Sumaa - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 09:39

" No sooner does the child of God approach the mercy seat than he becomes the client of the great advocate. At the first utterance of penitence and appeal for pardon Christ espouses his case and makes it His own, presenting the supplication before the father as His own request" 6T 364

Dear Pastor Pipim, thank God your source of motivation and consolation is not found only in the scribbling of men but also in the undaunted love of Christ to bear your shame and to espouse your case before the father.The condition however is true repentance; which itself is a gift from God.We all, though unworthy,for Christ sake shall continually pray for you and the entire family in this crucial moment of your life.

Robert Sumaa - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 09:44

" No sooner does the child of God approach the mercy seat than he becomes the client of the great advocate. At the first utterance of penitence and appeal for pardon Christ espouses his case and makes it His own, presenting the supplication before the father as His own request" 6T 364

Dear Pastor Pipim, thank God your source of motivation and consolation is not found only in the scribbling of men but also in the undaunted love of Christ to bear your shame and to espouse your case before the father.The condition however is true repentance; which itself is a gift from God.We all, though unworthy,for Christ sake shall continually pray for you and the entire family in this crucial moment of your life.

Geo S. Believer - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 09:45

C. Ray: If you knew some of the Adventists I know, you wouldn't assume that Mrs. D was being sarcastic. I know Adventists who would say that drinking coffee was the first step to adultery.

joerants - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 09:47

You missed the whole point completely! People are calling for his head! and we don't even have the full story and if we do then what? Are we going to undo the problem? Isn't he also subject to the same grace that all of us need?

Lev Sadovnik - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 09:50

"None of us can stand in moral judgment without condemning ourselves. "

Well said Sean. Well said!

_______________________

Educating people can be challenging.

frank7 - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:03

@Joerants...

How many people here are calling for the man's head? The great majority of posters are offering prayers and understanding. Where is the racism in that?

Frank

joerants - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:07

It was a propositional statement, I asked if this reaction from some is it because of his race? which I also stated that that argument would lead to another discussion. Again you're missing the point. Get with the program Frank!

Mike MacLennan - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:08

Sean Pitman, I appreciate your comments. Amen!

joerants - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:14

Sean you're on point!

anon - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:18

Did @Jorants seriously just play the race card?!

Grace - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:34

After reading a couple of posts on this site yesterday I must admit I was agree about how some of us are casting “stones”. After thinking about this issue I came to the realization that we need to really pray for ourselves and very much so our leaders as they are the target of the devil. For if he (the devil) is able to destroy our leaders he thinks he can destroy us too by letting us fight among ourselves - but thanks to the blood of Jesus which was shed on the cross his church will prevail.

Kenneth I’m sorry about the way I responded to your post yesterday for God knew my heart that I was hurting for the fall of a man of God.

I would please ask that we should pray for Ps Pipim and also our Pastors and leaders for we see them up there as they are Angels but they are just mortal human beings just like as. Who does a Pastor go to when they have a problem? Remember our leaders and their families can be very lonely people. We go to them with our problems but who do they go to when they have problems and need someone to talk to. Please let’s pray!!!

Joerant thank you so much for your post… “All in all, David, Moses, Solomon, Abraham, Jacob fell along the way, they went through a process of repentance and God eventually restored them and they became even more powerful than ever. God is the ultimate Judge of all things, nothing is hidden in His sight, He rules with Grace and Mercy in which none of here deserve. Let God be God, for the LORD is in His holy temple and let all the earth keep silent before Him”

joerants - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 10:39

Small minds get excited over trivial things...perhaps I should go back to the University and sue the school. What does propositional mean?!!! Seeing that most here are assuming, I saw it fit that why don't we widen the manner of debate. Keep in mind that NO ONE here has the full facts. Only God, Dr Sam, his wife and the other person who know what really happened. Us we're just speculating.

Francis Tuffour - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 11:07

The downfall of a man is not the end of his life, our gracious God loves him, He cares and will not leave Dr. KP. Moral fall is not a racent phenomenon. In the Bible there are examples, it happened to a renowned Pastor Henery Ward Beecher in 1868. Still this problems keeps happening, cutting across denominational divide, as Christians we are not immuned, sexual battle is a battle for all, it happened to former president Clinton and countless stars. We should not crucify our brother, we should support him and the family and the other person in prayers. God cares and will lift them. We need to help. We should not add salt to injuries. We should be empathetic and pray for God to help us each moment and to know that temptation is a banana peel on our path. God bless and keep us all.

Frank Allen - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 11:08

The image of Daniel 2 represents humanity resting on feet of clay and iron—“partly strong and partly fragile” (Dan 2:42). As iron and clay “do not adhere to one another” (2:43), neither can humanity ever be united in all viewpoints (theology, philosophy, culture, values or science). Strengths and weaknesses are always bundled together. Perfection, “perfect obedience” (EGW), God does not require what humanity cannot perform.

If we lived in the times of Elijah, translated to heaven, we would probably be shocked by his human flaws. Reformation heroes recorded in Great Controversy, were not saints, they are defective like humanity they preached to. We have to be careful not to depend upon any person to be our religious model. It is a human tendency to “worship” an image, but every time our human devotion turns out be the “image of the beast” (Rev 13), the beast inside of all humanity.

merethinker - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 11:22

Some of you write: "No sin is greater than than another."
Maybe this is right, but there is no doubt that some sins have larger and more visible consequenses than other.
I am very happy Pipim is not going around the world being a guru anymore.
There are enough gurus - and we even have a pope in this world. We don`t need FBI-Christians either, telling the rules and the mantras and the solutions on every moral or religious issue.

Roy A - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 11:26

From my perspective, the reason Sam Pipim's adultery has become so "newsworthy" comes from the fact that he is living out Jesus' parable of the Unmerciful Servant. He built the pedestal that he just fell from. For decades Pipim has placed thousands in his theological stranglehold, demanding justice for petty things. Now this Unmerciful Servant finds himself back at the kings feet, in need of much greater mercy than those he demanded it from.

I do not rejoice that this has come to light. I am simply relieved that there is one less loud voice distracting our people from the only thing that matters: a genuine, daily walk with Jesus Christ. A focus on behavior modification and personal self-control can only produce one thing: disappointment.

merethinker - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 11:40

Roy A, You said it. I totally agree.

joerants - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 11:47

Perhaps I'm a dreamer, perhaps I have it wrong, perhaps I'm being unrealistic. For some time I have asked myself this question: Where are we still here on earth? I have engaged in theological and philosophical debates and also some which ended on unfriendly terms with my counterparts. As much as I have admired and respected Dr Sam (which I still do) I have come to a realization that we are still here on earth because our focus has been on each other. We have focused on the specks on people's eyes than the logs on our eyes, we have analyzed people's lives and their convictions with a fine tooth comb that when they fall by the way side we make a meal of their mishaps. We have rooted our friendships on things that are of this world. Perhaps the reason we are still here on earth is that our focus is not heaven bound, we're immersed in antagonizing and labeling and forgot that Christ is the key to heaven. We have placed our trust and based our faith on the faith of others which are visible to us. These things which are indeed sad.

I, myself have fallen short on many occasions, and I know that as we come to the conclusion of earth's history many revelations of people in which we trusted are yet to come out and we're still going to be disappointed and saddened. But no matter how hard the enemy is going to attack, we must not forget that we are heaven bound beloved. God is not yet done with all of us and certainly He is not yet done with Dr Sam. Heaven is for sinners saved by grace, Jesus exercised the same grace to those who needed it most and also to those who thought they didn't need it. In this manner I would like to ask for forgiveness to those in this blog whom I may have rubbed the wrong way, the Holy Spirit is calling me to order.

Saints let us not lose the profession of our faith, let us uphold and help each other along the way, let Jesus be the One who dictates the pace and direction of our lives, lets die daily in Him, let's seek to be in His Presence on a daily basis. God is still in control, He is firmly seated on His throne and He will triumph with His own. My prayers and thoughts are with the Pipims, I'm praying for our leaders in this movement, for the pastors in the field, for independent ministries which function under the guise of holiness, I'm praying for the young ministerial students in the seminary that they may hold on to Jesus, I'm praying for the members as they take bullets for this tragedy. I also pray for myself that I may be found not wanting when weighed. Let's not lose sight and focus Jesus is coming again! Coming again, Coming again...Jesus is coming again!

Alexander Carpenter - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:01

Nicely articulated, Roy A.

Jeff Carlson - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:07

I - as one who has been very frustrated with Pipim's theology/methodology over the years - also have been happily surprised at the outpouring of grace and mercy in these comments...and the lack-there-of in yours, "Not Surprised." Unless you are trying to teach us a lesson in irony I'd strongly encourage you to close your laptop and go for a walk...

Andrew Hanson - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:15

I’m concerned about references to Pipim as “a man of God” and “a man who led so many to God”. What God are we talking about here? Has GYC theology continuing to “bless” Adventist young people? In my view it has been and continues to be a disaster.

There is no question that Pipim’s “fall from grace” is a tragedy for him, his family, the “other person”, and his ultra conservative fan base. All are now on my prayer list.

My hope is that Pipim’s influence in terms of official church theological discourse, policy issues, and church politics is diminished.

sylvanus worlanyo Dompey - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:27

A big tree has fallen indeed and it all shows how skillful the devil is. I believe this should be a big lesson to us all. Ps has publickly accepted his shortfall without considering what people may say having in mind his salvation. How many of us are bold to accept our mistakes? Pr has demonstrated that he leaves by what he preaches.Let us therefore pray for our dear minister and family in this trying moments.

mom2twoboys - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:48

Mrs. D of Cherrybrook sounds a lot like Mrs. Gray from ClubAdventist.

Tom Zwemer - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:49

Alex

Why don't you have one of your staff search out Pastor Paul Heubach's sermon :He Stubbled and Fell"
and publish it on-line.
It is a powerful, well reasoned, redemptive homily that covers in a lucid fashion the trend of these responses to Sanms tragic error. I believe it is in Ministry but it maybe in the Review. It is timeless, comprehensive, the essence of Gospel ministry. Tom Z.

glenn - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:57

"Has GYC theology continuing to “bless” Adventist young people? In my view it has been and continues to be a disaster."

How so?

Concerned - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:01

There seems to be something going completely unnoticed in all of these comments here. The fact that Dr. Pipim is not trying to excuse his behavior or find some way to continue in his behavior. He is not trying to justify it or say it is not sin, or say "Well, now I understand it is ok to break the laws of God." He is repenting. He says he has repented to God and to his family and now, he is repenting to the church and to the people he has let down. This is very much in the line of what he has preached. He is not reneging on the truth that the Bible proclaims, but he is acknowledging that he has fallen and needs God's grace and His strength to once again be made whole.

I find it very odd that many comments here are comparing what he did with concepts he may have spoken about. It appears that the consensus is, now that he has committed this grievous sin, suddenly he'll realize sin isn't wrong anymore? I keep hearing how he needs grace and now maybe he'll start preaching a grace-based message. Yes, he does need grace. Yes, we all do. But, his messages were Biblical messages of truth. And messages from the Spirit of Prophecy. He attempted to expose some errors the church is falling into as far as spiritualism and I know this has helped me greatly.

Christ offers us his righteousness and tells us that we no longer need to be slaves to sin, but that now we can be slaves to righteousness for holiness. "For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness." Romans 6:19. Not only this, but God has given us an ample amount of teachings on what sin is and how to overcome through the power of Christ. We are assured God will always provide us a way out of temptation (1 Corinthians 10:13). God has even given us the counsel of a prophet in these last days so that we can guard our hearts against the deceptions of Satan. Does this mean, we never lose our focus on Jesus and turn it towards ourselves and in so doing, we fall into temptation? Unfortunately no. But God does assure us that if we keep our eyes on Him, we will not fall. It is in our action of taking our eyes off Christ that allows us to be overcome by temptation. Thus, Dr. Pipim has acknowledged that he did not rely on Christ to overcome in this situation, but instead allowed himself to fall into temptation. He has repented of it.

How can we compare this to things that we read are wrong in the Bible or Spirit of Prophecy and then we say, "Oh well, I can't stop doing that. God knows my heart." This is a much different mindset. It is not one of repentance. It is one of opposition to God's will. In our own strength, we may not be able to stop doing something, but in Christ's strength all things are possible (Philippians 4:13). If there's anything that can be learned here it is a lesson in humility for every single one of us. We must humble ourselves before God and allow Him to mold us and shape us, so that we will be His creatures, used for His will. And if we do fall, we must admit our wrong, repent, and seek the healing and purification that God offers.

As far as Michigan conference. I think this is exactly what they are asking La Sierra to do. Hold people accountable for their actions (whether it be grievous sins, which affect the whole church. Or whether it be wrong teachings). Whether Dr. Pipim's resignation is voluntary or has been coerced, I believe the point is that the conference wants to hold to what is true in the word of God. If it is necessary for a leader to be disfellowshipped (or caused to resign or take time from the ministry) in order for his full recovery in Christ, then it is necessary. Whatever will lead to his salvation and the salvation of others. This may not seem that it would lead anyone to Christ, but Paul assures us in 1 Corinthians 5, that this action needs to be taken in certain cases. Does this mean God cannot forgive him? That there is no grace for him? That he can never again be part of the church? No, it does not. Instead, the very purpose is for the person to spend time with God and repair their relationship with Him and learn once again to seek His will for their lives. At this time, they are ready to reenter the church. God simply says they must be purged out as long as they are having a negative moral influence on the people. We are to be striving to be a holy people unto God. Uplifting His character and His name in all we do and our morality cannot be separated from our claim of "love". Love for God and love for others. We may think our small sins hurt no one, but God knows the complete picture and that is why He makes clear to us many moral issues, so that we can see God's understanding of loving Him and loving others. Is it not His definition of love that we want to follow?

Elijah Nyamaah - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:03

Pastor, Ireceived the news with a deep heart but thank God I am lifted up. Take Heart for the Lord you serve has overcome the devil on your behalf. Satan tried to conquer but remember he is a defeated foe. God has overcome him.
Many are those who are daily praying for you. Take heart and move forward. Never look back. Life is 10% of what happens to us and 90% of our reaction to what happens to us.
May Good Lord hold you fast and never be discouraged. Remember all that you have taught in times like these.
God be with you and the family.

Ghana SDA - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:03

I think this is a set up. The people who oppose his honest teaching found a willing person to seduce him. Perhaps they even drugged him. This will become clear very soon. Just wait.

Steve - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:09

By his own teaching, which has been aapplied to those who committed far lesser sin, Dr. Pipim should resign his membership in the church and return his ministerial credentials. His teachings were heartlessly applied before yet somehow he is an exception to his own rule? Grace, yes. Consistency, yes. May God have mercy on those who arr no longer in the church because of him.

Steve - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:12

GHana SDA, he is a man who had a lot to say, but did not have the courage of his convictions. Very little moral fiber to back up his sermons. A mediocre man with a message that was too big for him. There is redemption, but that is outside the ministry.

pat travis - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:23

I have no personal dog in this fight. I only choose to make generic comments.

I believe a pastor, just like any other member, should be subject to discipline for violating many actions prohibited in scripture without favoritism. In these serious violations the church has to show it's disaproval of actions. In those willing to acknowledge and confess of their BIBLICAL error they belong in fellowship and membership which is THE best place for healing to occur. To the beligerant their membership needs to be removed yet the church should work and hope to reclaim such a one at some point as redmption is the churches goal for all.

I believe it is necessary for the pastor to relingquish his role as a "teaching pastor" until such time it is evident that one has control of the beseting sin that brings reproach on God's people and church.

That's my "two cents" and it was free for what it is worth.

Roy A - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:23

To poster, "Ghana SDA"

It sounds like they might have drugged you as well.

Elaine Nelson - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:33

"People are calling for his head!"

After reading through all, approximatelhy 200 comments, I found none that are calling for his head; actually, he handed it to us on a silver platter, in his resignation letter nothing more needs to be said. He has resigned his position with the church so what else should be expected--a pound of flesh?

Someone said it was between him and agod, but truthfully, many, probably thousands have been affected, epecially his family, the family of his parmour, and all those who were greatly influenced by his life and teachings. This is the real tragedy: the greater the influence, the larger potential for damage.

Sean, we appreciate your extending him grace, as most have. Only a few were not so forgiving, which he has requested and should be assured of.

Elaine

hopeful 2011 - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:38

Sheesh, now we have the "Pipim's the victim of an evil plot" conspiracy. So predictable. Didn't Joseph refuse Potiphar's wife? That's what an ethical man does when someone attempts his "seduction."

I do think that there's more to this story. If--as presented--Pipim only had a one-night-stand to repent about, it seems that his Administrator's reaction would have been less severe; a leave of absence, perhaps, & no publicity.

Cherilyn - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:44

Mr. Pipim's salvation is between him and God. Meanwhile if I did not trust him before for his judgmental mindset, I would trust him even less now because in his apology letter he barely "owns" his actions:

1. "It was a temptation of a moment" (does that mean an emergency temptation?) The truth is that if Mr. Pipim had healthy boundaries and was convicted by the values he has been preaching to others, it would never have happened. No one can tempt us to do what we have never dreamed of doing--that's why Jesus said what He did about lusting in our hearts.

2. He also says that he "took precautions, but just didn't take enough." It feels like he saying that he was diligent in avoiding the situation, but some force outside him overcame him. This is the way of sin except that we do get to vote whether we participate or not. I can see that someone falls but then let them own it out and out and not make exceptions because his falling is no more noble than the teenager that sleeps with his girlfriend-- as matter of fact it is probably worse.

In Matt. 7:16, Jesus says we can know someone their fruits. While Mr. Pipim goes on to discuss the ministry he was involved with and how it prepares people for the second coming of Christ. At that point, I just feel like vomiting. So many men have given a good talk about morals while they abused those they came in contact with behind closed doors--emergency or none he has failed to show the light in his message and life. Mr. Pipim in my opinion needs to actually own his own junk and then stop pretending to have the answers. At this point everything else he says is blah, blah, blah. Sorry Mr. Pipim, it is not too late for you, but stop already with acting like you know the answers.

City Lights - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:47

Pipim is a worthy opponent indeed. Even as his right-wing, fundamentalist theological banner hits the dust and he falls to the ground in shame and disgrace he still has the arrogance and hubris to call out those opposed to his theology, shaking his fist and cursing then as 'enemies of God who will rejoice'. Really Sam? Those who oppose you oppose God? The grotesque, bloated ego knows no bounds and he goes down spitting and fighting, his hatred for progressives and liberals undiminished. He knows his cause has taken a blow and he is ripping mad about it. I love it. What a formidable force he would be if we could just get him on our side.

In this though, he is correct. We are indeed enemies Pipim. Theological enemies who will show each other no quarter. If one of our camp were on the ropes Pipim would put the boots to them without mercy, of this there can be no doubt. I would expect nothing less of him and he expects nothing less of anti-fundamentalists. Yes, I oppose you Pipim. I oppose you in the name of Paul who wished the knife would slip on the Pharisees, in the name of Luther who called the corrupt, legalistic church of Rome a shameless whore and purveyor of crushing, works-based salvation, and in the name of John the Baptist and Jesus Christ who spared not that brood of vipers whose legacy you and those like you carry on to this day. That means you Kevin Paulson.

Do I rejoice in Pipim's infidelity? No. I could care less what shenanigans he carries on with in his hotel rooms. He is not the first high-profile religious leader to succumb to lust of the flesh and he won't be the last to be caught with his pants down. All that does is prove his corrupt, works-based salvation theology and sinless perfection refuse as the worthless trash it is. Worse than worthless, it is powerless and useless.

What I do rejoice in is that, at least for a short while, his voice has been silenced and he will no longer pollute the theology of Adventists who don't know better. For at least a short while he will no longer defile and corrupt young minds at putrid General Youth Indoctrination Conferences. For at least a while he will no longer oppress female pastors and women in general with his chauvinistic rot. For at least a short while he will no longer spit his venom of condemnation on contemporary worship styles and celebration services. The yammering, hectoring, judgmental voice heard echoing around camp meetings and church services everywhere lauding righteousness by diet and elevating jewelry and dress to salvation status will be silenced, if but for a short while. Oh yes, I am doing a dance of joy over that, no question. How many throats have you held and throttled, condemning those in the church who don't think like you as non-Adventists and apostate pretenders? How many Sam? In your own words an SDA who eats pork is not an Adventist. I daresay eating a pork chop pales in the face of your infidelity. Where does this leave you dear Pipim? Where does that leave your gnat-swallowing ministry now? Karma baby. Get to know it, what goes around comes around.

I rejoice in this tentatively though, well aware that he will continue to spread the dung of his legalistic beliefs around the denomination somehow, in some capacity, either through a different avenue or through a zealous young ultra-conservative successor that has fed on the raw meat of fundamentalism and is ready and poised to carry the torch of kicking in the teeth of Luther's message of justification by faith. There will always be another to replace the fallen. Always another M.L. Andreason, another Joe Crews, another Dennis Priebe, another Russel and Colin Standish, another Kevin Paulson and Larry Kirkpatrick ready to regress the church back 100 years and charge into the denominational fray carrying the flag of intolerance high with calls for a camp-cleanse and a purge of those who they believe to be heretics because they don't tow the right-wing party line. Do your worst fundamentalists. Because we are legion and we are not going anywhere.

Abe Thompson - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:01

Since we do not know what really happened we are speculating.However,The Lord has promised that we will not be tempted beyond our capacity to resist IF and it is a big if we lay hold of the Spirit.

If this gentleman was tempted in a moment of weakness and fell that is one thing but if the Spirit was speaking to him and he refused to listen choosing to unzip and enjoy the pleasures of the flesh then he is beyond redemption. Since we do not know the facts we should be silent.Only God knows the whole thing but beware Esau found no repentance for much less.

Francis Tuffour - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:02

This is not a place to argue or fight, as united Christians a fall of a comrade affects us. Let us pray.

City Lights - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:14

Correction - that should be gnat-filtering ministry not swallowing!

New Living Translation:
"Blind guides! You strain your water so you won't accidentally swallow a gnat, but you swallow a camel!"

Mgune Masatu - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:16

1 John 2:16 KJV has it that, "16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world."

But who is the "world?" That is Mgune, Sanawa, Randy Skeete, Rubara, Pipim, Osama, Praxeda, Mwasapila(e?), Qeen Elizabeth, Bill Graham, Razinger, Machocho girl, Opere, Mwansa, Mbwana, Kikwete you name it. Since we are all lustful of fleshes, of eyes, etc, none of us is immune to temptation. At this point, I am learning to point at my sins. He who thinks is standing, let him watch lest he stumbles and fall. Let Jesus be our role model 100 percent. Of course, human beings can be our role models (this is an inescapable fact) but let it be just partially.

I am surely terribly sorry for my role model Dr. Koranteng-Pipim but I am taking it as a challenge. The guy is (was?) a great man, irrespective of the circumstances.

Let us pray for the church, for ourselves, not forgetting the great gentleman Pipim.

Conteplating yours,

Mwa Masatu.

pat travis - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:19

Abe,

I suggest no one is beyond redemption from our perspective and confession of one's sin is a "potential sign" that the HS is still at work in/on an individual and redemption most certainly is at work.

regards,
pat

Another generic. Someone who stands for nothing is not up for "public display" like the one who has stood for something and fails.

hopeful 2011 - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:23

"Clergy sexual abuse and misconduct (including spiritual abuse) is wrong. It is the pastor’s (or any other person in the role of authority) responsibility to maintain appropriate boundaries.
...
"The pastoral/clergy sexual abuse in the news recently refers mostly to the abuse of young boys by the male clergy. The reality is that women are often (men are occasionally) victims of sexual abuse and professional exploitation by pastors, ministers and clergy, as well as other professional caregivers, instructors and mentors.
...
"We also recognize the fact that some women do seek to seduce their pastors and that, at times, the pastors may succumb to this temptation. This, however, in no way lessens the pastor’s responsibility (or guilt if he falls) to protect the woman (even if only from herself) and to maintain proper boundaries. The person with the power, whether it be the pastor, a teacher, a therapist, etc., is ALWAYS the one with the highest responsibility and accountability."

http://www.thehopeofsurvivors.com/default.asp

Cherilyn - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:55

Thank you, "Hopeful" for adding an appropriate thought. I have been in SDA churches more than once where the pastors had "falls" and denied it until proof was brought forth by their victims or their spouses. In one instance, the conference president said that he wished he had not reinstated the pastor because 20 years before the man had admitted to an "emotional affair," but the denials were impossible to believe the second time around (or was it the second?) because there were photos for proof. It is my experience that men in high positions are forgiven for their abuse of others, while someone who say has a mutual affair and divorce might lose their membership. There is a sense that some conferences are run like good ole boys clubs. Why should a conference man or a pastor be given a get out of jail free while they persecute other sinners?

Another question is what happened to the victim of this so called man of God? And when he asks for prayers why does he not list the vicitm also? It seems from the way he worded his apology that he sees himself as the victim because he says he "took precautions, but not enough" so are we to assume he is the victim?

Thomas. - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:07

Some have suggested Sam's leaving the ministry is a bit harsh, that he should be given time off to sort himself out, or be transferred. Is that what happens where you live? I've known quite a few circumstances where a male pastor has had sex with a woman other than his wife and that was always the end of their church employment. No leave, no time out, no transfer. The trust was damaged and the pastor (and his family) paid the price.

Sheri - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:12

If Sam had been caught drinking alcohol he also would have fallen just like this. I've heard of pastors in some conferences who would lose their jobs if they were caught drinking Coke.

Mrs D of Cherrybrook - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:21

I am mortified to realise that the temptation Dr Pipim faced (and succumbed to) was not that of drinking coffee, and I can understand people asking if I was being sarcastic now that I understand the issue is not just one of choosing to put the wrong thing into his body, but a choice to betray his wife's trust and to engage in intimacies and intercourse with someone to whom he was not married.

Dr Pipim is not so unusual. While most evangelists don't drink coffee many of them do engage at some point in their career in extra-marital affairs, and as far as I can see this temptation is a real test for those who set public standards the was Dr Pipim has so successfully done in recent years. Once the evangelist has failed the test they are a better example of the grace of God, so it all works out in the end. This was the case with the evangelist who brought me into the church.

It's very sad for Dr Pipim's wife, and if I were her I would leave him - cheaters cheat - but Dr Pipim will be fine.

C. Ray - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:46

Concerned wrrote: "I find it very odd that many comments here are comparing what he did with concepts he may have spoken about. It appears that the consensus is, now that he has committed this grievous sin, suddenly he'll realize sin isn't wrong anymore?"

It's not that people hope he will stop thinking sin is wrong, it's a hope that he will see that grace is right!

Aage Rendalen - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:54

All communities of faith or without faith that I know of believe in forgiveness and redemption but I don't know that any of them has learned to live comfortably with these ideals. Who would--without considerable palpitations--raise their hand and vote into fellowship a repentant Ted Haggart or a Jimmy Swaggart? (Are you able to imagine Ted Haggard gracing the front page of the Review, proclaiming his new-found SDA faith?)

In my native Norway a generation of WWII nazi collaborators, often inoffensive people who joined what they thought was the winning side, spent the decades after the war as marked people. Our parents pointed them out to us. When we started school in the 50s and 60s, they would tell us who among our classmates had parents who had sided with the German occupiers. I knew about the scarlet letter long before I had heard of Hester Prynn.

I suspect the truth is that individuals at times forgive and forget, but communities don't. Spectacular sins will always doom the offender to a life in the shadows, outside of his or her 'circle of trust' (to quote DeNiro). Somehow communities seem to feel that taking the idea of redemption seriously would diminish the righteousness of the majority and publicly question its commitment to the highest moral standards.

Bill Mahr, on his HBO show, regularly taunts Christians with the words of Jesus in the sermon on the mount. I can say these things because I'm not a Christian, he laughs, and then adds, but neither are most Christians. Although there is obviously much more to the Pipim story than what is know publicly, it seems that this will be a good opportunity for the Adventist community to grapple with the practicalities of the Christian gospel.

Aage

Darrell C - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:59

Ah City Lights, I was wondering when you would wax eloquent on this matter.

I chuckle at you. You must be a novelist! : )

C. Ray - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:07

Exercising forgiveness and redemption is not the same as forgetting and reinstatement. If someone was molested by their step father, they may, after a long emotional journey, come to the place of forgiveness. But does that mean "Grandpa" should now be allowed to babysit the kids? It's almost setting the situation up for a fall!

I can forgive a theif, but I don't have to tempt them by asking them to hold my wallet. I can forgive a gossipper, but that doesn't mean they get to share in my secrets. Forgiveness is what we are called to do as Christians, but I don't remember any Scripture that explicitly mandates that the offender be entrusted with the same avenues that caused the offense.

Offenses should be forgotten in the sense that it's unnecessary to rehash the situation repeatedly, but not necessarily in the sense that an opportunity is presented for recidivism. SKP can be forgiven, but I hope no one believes that in order for it to be true or "Christian" that reinstatement is an AUTOMATIC and inherent part of that process.

Carmen Lau - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:42

If it were a young person with whom he behaved inappropriately, then he should NOT be reinstated EVER in the position of out reach to university students. I would also suggest that his sermons be removed from denominational websites. This is a courtesy and respect to the other party. If the other party turns out to be a mature adult, it would still be painful and wrong, but perhaps, he could have a future in some organizational capacity. As a mother of college aged children, I cringe to think of a young person having to cope and respond to an outspoken, pious, powerful, person such as Pipim.

hopeful 2011 - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:45

"All communities of faith or without faith that I know of believe in forgiveness and redemption but I don't know that any of them has learned to live comfortably with these ideals. "

Forgiveness & redemption are personal. For the community, re-employment of errant clergy & educators must include a process of restoration. Some denominations have an extended plan requiring counseling & accountability.

Perhaps a faith community w/ such a process does better at living out forgiveness & redemption. Just from the comments here, we have a sense of the many emotions & concerns the Adventist community is suffering. Restoration helps the community heal, not just the affected individual.

friend of sinners - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:01

Anyone who knows Sam, knows that his theology is nothing... nothing like M.L. Andreason, Joe Crews, Dennis Priebe, Russel and Colin Standish, Kevin Paulson or Larry Kirkpatrick. On the issues of the gospel, nature of Christ, salvation, and perfectionism Sam is in a different camp altogether from this legalistic lot. How would I know? He is a personal friend and when I was being lambasted by Kevin and Larry for my gospel theology, Sam came to my rescue. In many conversations he has demonstrated that he is a lover and a promotor of the Pauline doctrine of justification. We may disagree on the matter of the ordination of women to the gospel ministry, but on the issue of the gospel he was always clear. Justification is by faith alone. His clarion call to fidelity may not have always been appreciated, but it was not a denial of the gospel. Paul gave just such a call in 1 Corinthians 9:24-10:14.

Father Pinochet - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:57

I hope this makes the news.

cherry - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:01

In a few weeks the ex pastor in question will be given a job at Adventist Health Systems.

yaa - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:03

if you said he didn't say sorry then you do not understand simple english, he said it and posting that letter shows how sorry he was. There is nothing wrong of narrating his achievements and he did not ask anyone to have sympathy on him, he has won many souls for Christ and the fact that he confeses to the whole world means he prayed over it and have been forgiven, who are we to judge anyway? look at you and ask yourself if God appears today you will be with Him. The thief who was at the cross with Jesus he asked Him to remember Him and He did. Ask yourself, that what you are saying about someone God will like it. best wishes bye

Aage Rendalen - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:22

C. Ray
It's an adage within the skeptical community that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Maybe the same principle applies with respect to the cases you mention. High crimes and misdemeanors require extraordinary evidence of redemption before we're able to set aside the past and bury it in the depths of the sea. I was speaking earlier of our common frailties, especially men's perpetual hankering after forbidden sex, as in the case of Pipim. I agree that there are crimes that no moral person should ever try to forget. There may be people whose charity extends even to the perpetrators of the holocaust or the Rwanda genocide--and maybe God's grace does, if such a thing exists--but to most of us the moral thing, face to face with pure evil, is to remember, not to forget.

PS. I suspect that the reason why so many people who publicly rail against sexual sins fall victim to the very passions they warn others about, is that ministers tend to focus on their own demons when they preach. A pulpit preoccupation is often a revealing insight into the speaker's personal psyche.

Aage

BarbaraBabcock - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:03

There has certainly been ample time to have his name removed from the websites affiliated with his 'leadership.'

Barbara Babcock

Fred Eastman - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:10

Graham Maxwell used to tell a story about the minister who had written in his sermon note margins, "pound pulpit profusely, point poorly substantiated"!!
As others have said, many times when someone seems to be "obsessed" with a particular ideology or subject they may be struggling with that issue themselves.
Life is alot about "balancing ideas, lifestyle, etc." and it has been my experience that when someone loses that "balance" then bad things seem to happen!!
Continued prayers and healing for all involved!!
Fred
PS certain professions such as physicians, ministers, counselors, etc. are in a "trusted" relationship with those to whom they minister and carry greater responsibility to maintain that "trust". Once that is violated, it is very difficult to rebuild that and almost always means they cannot be put back into that "trusted" position professionally again. That doesn't mean they cannot contribute in some fashion to the spreading of the gospel.

Anonymous II - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:13

I wonder if Dr. Pipim will ever read a word written on Spectrum Magazine.

So many here are in pain to see him go through this. Yet we seem to be hanging on to the hope that Dr. Pipim will humble himself before the Lord and come to an experience of His grace versus a head knowledge.

I think one of the greatest thing that Dr. Pipim can do is to genuinely humble himself before the Lord, and ask those whom he PUT DOWN for an apology. The very people he put down are people who love the Lord and want to further His gospel message. Dr. Pipim saw them as obstacles, enemies of truth, rather than tools in the hands of the Lord.

Dr. Pipim should NEVER be reinstated into ministry. He has done enough damage before and during this incident to last a life time.

It all boils down to pride with Dr. Pipim. It is time for him to be humbled and humble himself before the Lord.

holmes - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:32

If you gonna quote from the manual, don't leave some out. Read also page 182 under the heading;
Administering Discipline.
Let me quote from the manual as well;
If a member falls into sin, sincere efforts must be made for reclamation. " If the erring one repents and submits to Christ's discipline, he is to be given a another trial".

Thank You.

Fay Crombie - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:43

Cherilyn...really agree with your point #2. While obfuscating, I think dear Mr. Pipim revealed alot. "Failed in taking enough precautions"--do all godly men have to go through contortions to gird themselves up with enough protective devices and mental preparations when they go on mission visits. Memo to self: pack Bible and at least one chasity belt. Trips without a wife in tow, can be such a mine field

Cherilyn - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:46

Re: " If the erring one repents and submits to Christ's discipline, he is to be given a another trial".

Yes, but not given another opportunity to abuse or mislead a young person.

Carlos - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:47

Fay, I think the Chastity belt thing is the wisest idea. We need to add that to the shopping list ABC.

Carrol Grady - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 20:17

Having been the object of Dr. Pipim's condemnation, my immediate reaction to this news was not very Christ-like. But then I remembered how intolerant I once was, before learning I had a gay son. I just pray that this experience will help Dr. Pipim come to a new understanding of grace and love.

MAN - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 20:21

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING PEOPLE HERE?I AM INTERESTED IN THIS ADVENTISM!I I HAVE LEFT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND I WANTED TO JOIN THIS CHURCH WHICH I HEARD OF IN HOPE CHANNEL.I HAPPENED TO GET THIS SPECTRUM MAGAZINE,NOW IAM ASKING YOU BLOGGERS; IS THIS THE TRUE CHURCH I SHOULD JOIN OR IT IS DIVIDED? DONT SCARE ME!!!! WHO IS THERE TO GIVE ME WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT???

Tom. - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 20:30

This isn't the Adventist church, but some here are adventists. Like in any group, a leader has succumbed to his impulses and let his pants down. He was strident about punishing sin and living perfectly so it's a double whammy. Jesus is still fine and doing ok, but sad.

WOMAN - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 21:12

Dear MAN

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE TRUE CHURCH, JUST SINNERS WITH A COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF GOD. CHURCHES WILL ALWAYS PROVIDE DISAPPOINTING EXAMPLES OF FAILURE TO LIVE UP TO PRINCIPLE. JOIN THIS CHURCH CONFIDENT THAT, AS IN ANY OTHER HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS, FROM TIME TO TIME YOU WILL BE LET DOWN. WORK ON DEVELOPING A HEALTHY SENSE OF RESILIENCE AND SELF-AWARENESS AND YOU WILL BE FINE!!!!

RT1 - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 21:49

None of us is perfect when it comes to quickly typing out blog entries, but the typos in postings here are sometimes hilarious!

Jorge Orozco - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 03:59
“So sad. Really Sad. I rejoice in all the support letters from people that made clear do not support his theology, but in his hour of need pray for him and all the parts involved.”

Uh…did you really mean “parts” or did you perhaps mean “parties”?!

RT1 - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 21:51

Victor said, “Is the strategy - Quick Confession with Quick Reinstatement?” Geo S. Believer echoed the sentiment. So do I. With his high-placed, moneyed friends like McNeilus et al., it wouldn’t surprise me a bit for him to sideline himself for awhile, earn some money, then return. Maybe a stint in global mission with Bob Folkenburg , or maybe a stint at AHS as some kind of chaplain or community service coordinator, or … But I think he’ll be back sooner than later. The only thing that might prevent this is that he became an icon of the right and he can no longer serve that role. Someone else will have to be the public face of it.

Still, I hope that he learns from this and that his family and the other person(s?) find resolution.

Tom. - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 22:10

Like Bill he could have an RC stint for a while, then be reconverted!

WO and MAN - PLEASE STOP SHOUTING!

Julius - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:15

In deed it sad to hear a bout the resignation of Dr. Pimpim. this points to us that we are in a great war and battle with the evil one and we stand at a point that we really need the hand of God and the Grace of God. May the Almighty Give Our brother great healing from this and we also pray for him and accept him back since we still need him as youth in the ministry. even Samson,David, and the great patriarchs had their dark past but God accepted them after the confession and repentance.Lets not be first to condemn
.My prayers with Him and the Family.

Not Surprised - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:15

Re: City Lights.

Nope. No problems in the Spectrum forum. Just like Jesus. Sigh.

Not Surprised - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:17

@ Man:

Don't worry. This is not the Adventist church. Just people who love to drag it through the dirt. Sorry you had to see this. I love this church, and you will, too.

Tom. - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:21

No one drags the church through the dirt but those who throw mud and fall in the mud.

Not Surprised - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:30

Tom: I've seen enough mud in this place over the years to convince me that what you say is true.

John Roberts - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:40

Re: MAN and WOMAN

It is quite obvious that these two individuals are one and the same. Probably signed up a day or two ago. They have IDENTICAL WRITING STYLES REPLETE WITH !!!!!!!!! Not a truth seeker, but just trying to make some point.

John Roberts

Jag - Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:43

May we all live through the day when the headline in the Adventist press reads: "Koranteng-Pipim Comes out of the Closet!".

Tom. - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 00:32

I have noticed that those who are the most critical, rigid and moralistic in their demands and judgments are the one's who topple the most when their feet are shown to be of clay and they fall off the pedestal. Many people give up much of themselves to fit their guru's demands and to create arguments to back him up, and they feel cheated.

Margaret Osei Boateng - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 00:36

It is rather unforturnate this should happen to a man of the gospel of God. But we should not forget that obsolute perfection is far beyond human's faculty. Satan is not happy with him proclaming the word of God and drawing the youth for Christ. We should not take this personally, the Father in Heaven who sees in secret knows his heart right now. l will always respect Dr. Pipim and continue praying for him. He has faithfully spoken the truth out of this and repented of the momental and uncalled for inccident. He has humbled himself, and allow truth to have its own way. This tells how he loves God . Taking his public figure into consideration, he would have lied to save his personal interest, but chose to tell the truth to be at peace with his God and family and God's people. . l plead with us all to examine our lives not seeing ourselves in adultery but seeing ourselves us sinners in various ways and have fallen short of the glory of God. May God Whose Name is love and Merciful, continue to deliver as from evil. We need God the most in our lives, let us continue in the faith and learn how to forgive and love one another; God bless us all.

John Wallace - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 00:45

Also, how did Pipim's letter of resignation get here?

John Wallace - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 00:50

PS
When Isaiah discovered he was just like his people it didn't stop him speaking for God. Important to recognize a message for it's truth, whoever delivers it. I hope the people who are secretly relishing this fall don't take it as justification for their rejection of Pipim's messages of reformation. That could prove dangerous. The enemy is a sly devil and you may be playing right into his hand.

Sampson Osei Aboagye - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 01:10

I think it is unfortunate what has happened to Pipim and his family. However to your question: whether this man is still an Adventist?, is also unfortunate. I sincerely know and believe Pipim is a child of God. The fall of a child of God doen't mean the end of him. Know doubt the accuser and enemy of God may rejoice over such fall, the hope is that: 1 John 1:9 (KJV)
[9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Yes Pipim have falling today, and giving course for the enemies to rejoice, The merciful God will forgive like Sampson, David and others, and raise him again. To some of us pastor Pipim hasn't got any new theology and ministry from doctrines and teachings of Adventist. The fact some people may not like views and perceptives doesn't means he condemns.

There are lesson we can learn from this:
- no one is immuned to sin no matter our standing
- we should on our guide all times
- we are all targets.
Whether Pipim is Adventist now or not doesn't come into the equation. The important thing how help him to recover from this wounds.

Margaret Osei Boateng - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 01:10

thank you. We should all come to reason that we are all human. We forget that sin be it lttle or big is sin. But now all fingers are pointing to Dr. Pipim. Lord Have mercy. His is known today what about those of us whose sins are covered. Do we go to the grave with it. Pipim has humbled himself to Truth. He has set himself at peace with God.That is very important now. We pray that there is no set ups in this for a man of God to fall if that is the case Lord have Mercy.

Ken Auma - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 01:55

2 Timothy 3:16;
When a message is presented to God’s people, they should not rise up in opposition to it; they should go to the Bible, comparing it with the law and the testimony, and if it does not bear this test, it is not true. God wants our minds to expand. He desires to put His grace upon us. We may have a feast of good things every day; for God can open the whole treasure of heaven to us. We are to be one with Christ as He is one with the Father, and the Father will love us as He loves His Son. We may have the same help that Christ had, we may have strength for every emergency; for God will be our front guard and our rearward.

I have loved teaching christian about the the 4C levels of a Christian journey;

Level 1: Calling Level
Level 2: Conditioning Level
Level 3: Carrying-on Level or Compromising level
Level 4: Crowning Level

Level 3 is the very hardest of them ALL. Even when Jesus Christ at the garden of Gethsemane, cried out to the Father and asked if possible the cup be taken away from Him. But, He asked for the will of God be done. Our Mission readings are written by people in level III.

Let us NOT condemn. Rom 8:1.but rather let apply Psalms 51:10 when discussing our issues.
Whom are we glorifying with our Thoughts and Talk? Let God take the center stage.

We shall overcome sin some day. Amen

eMmaNueL - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 02:32

this very true.

S Styrra - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 03:27

I find this talk of overcoming sin an incredibly self-centred approach. The sin talked about is almost always personal sin of particular moralistic behavioural standards. I watched my nephew and his friends under the spell of the current crop of neo-fundamentalist Adventist preachers slide into self-absorption and depression as they sought find and confess all their sins, to have their sins uprooted and replaced by God. He was also active in works of door knocking bible studies and that kind of witnessing. He became critical of others like the preachers and was strong to condemn all that was wrong by his standards. They were hard on themselves and others and struggled when they didn't overcome because obviously they were doing something wrong and weren't committed enough because God really had promised and had the power to overcome all sin in this life.

I once heard a story of a preacher who talked to a bunch of devout fundy christians and said that tens of thousands of kids died each day needlessly in the world and most of them didn't give a &%$# (insert swear word), but that more of them were more upset about him swearing than about the 10s of thousands of kids dying needlessly. And many were indignant.

I watch so many of the perfectionistic mob with self-righteous, holier than thou attitudes, that jesus challenged, i see so many that are more concerned about molehills than mountains, moralistic behavioural rightness than Jesus-style open-hearted relationships, about turning a blind eye to the ethical societal challenges in favour of prescriptive beliefs, i see so many beautiful people with their hearts and minds tainted and constrained by attitudes, judgments and behaviours that I don't see in Jesus. I see it and know it because I once was there. Thank God for the radical Jesus who rocked and challenged his world and faith community to see the bigger issues and to be authentic to the challenges of life, the world, and spirituality in heartopening ways.

Daniella - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 03:39

Hey Jesus, some of us trip up big time. Some of us do it where hardly anyone knows, others have it made public for whatever reason. I love how you never kicked anyone when they were down. Not a soul. Not even your worst enemy. Your compassion and care blows me away and I know that anyone would have felt safe with you, sharing the joys, and also telling you of the darkest secrets, knowing there was no condemnation or judging (coz that just closes us up and hides it all away inside again) . You understood humanness so well and helped people grow in their own beautiful way, planting in the soil of your love the unique seed of who they were and nurturing them to become the unique plant of blessing they were designed to be.

Life's messy, and people do things that rock our perceptions, and your love and healing is still bigger than anything that can be thrown at us. Jesus, I need you and love you. You keep me growing. I love being grown by you with the fertiliser of love, compassion, understanding, encouragement, gentleness, ... I I love how you are creating in me more and more that spirit I see in you. Amen!

Carlos - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 04:35

If Samuel Pipim had not slammed people with his far right whacky theology, and if he had not bashed people on stage, he would have found mercy. But he was soooooo harsh towards "liberals", "moderates" etc. that we are somewhat very saddened to hea what happened to him but also relieved that he is out of the picture, at least for a while.

hope he becomes grace oriented and meciful.

For those saying that no one is immune from sin, Dr. Pipim thought that he was and slammed people on the basis that he was perfect. He found out that he wasn't.

On a side note, these things do not happen in a "moment", this is something that he has been struggling with for years and he fell into it when the moment arose.

Your Friend - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 04:57

"For those saying that no one is immune from sin, Dr. Pipim thought that he was and slammed people on the basis that he was perfect. He found out that he wasn't. " Carlos
And Carpenter and company continue to allow ad hominem attacks on one who was serving as a minister of the gospel. Is this the real spirit and ethos of the spectrumite mindset? Whether conservative or liberal I call on you to terminate this tirade. And how often have we heard from the libs -- don't be judgmental.

Daniel Owusu-Djan - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 05:18

So, i believe that we all have made mistakes before, this man is entitiled to making a mistake, Seriously I would stand on his behalf anyday, this man has had an impact on sooo many lives, my spritiual journey changed for the better after I had attend youth camp a couple of years ago, the lives that he has changed is incredible, look the wisest mad made a mistake, and so what if i'm he's a pastor?? Isnt he human? He"s not a God, I respect even more that he has come forward with this, because many others would hide this. God Bless Him in what way that he is in. If God has forgiven him why cant us humans do so?

Kwabena Antwi - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 05:32

How many people don't lambaste and lampoon the ordinary floor member for similar sins committed? This is a big lesson. we are equal in the eyes of the lord. Only CHRIST JESUS is the yardstick.

Jodi Yeboah - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 05:36

I was saddened and disappointed by the news of Dr Pipim's 'moral fall' although I was not surprised. I have been praying for the preachers who are working hard to prepare God's church for His coming because I know that they are prime targets for the Evil One. The Devil is like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour and the moment he saw Dr Pipim's guard was down, he pounced. We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against higher powers....Everyone who is truly doing God's work will go through a similar severe testing - a personal time of trouble - and, but by the grace of God, they will also fall. Satan knows he can unsettle the faith of many when someone like Dr Pipim falls- I've seen it happen time and again. This doesn't excuse what Dr Pipim did - had he looked to Jesus in his hour of temptation he would have had the victory. We should never look up to a mere man, they will let us down. Jesus should be our only model.

Let this be a lesson to all those who are doing God's end time work - there is a need to consecrate themselves to Him daily, every hour of every day actually, the Devil is waiting for that moment when they take their eyes off Christ. Let's pray for all of the true ministers of the gospel, that God would protect them from the wiles of the Devil. Let us also be brave enough to put ourselves in the Devil's firing line by making it our priority to finish the work - so help us God.

Mike - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 06:12

I have one question for those of you who have posted and those who will be posting.I do not know if you will answer.Two questions.Based on the Word of God how do you think that Jesus views Dr. Pipim?.And how would Jesus treat him if he was here on earth today?.I await your response.Be blessed.

Joselito Coo - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 06:19

I've been thinking: Where would be the best place for Dr Pipim to begin his rehabilitation and restoration? Back in Ghana or as a member of an SDA Ghanaian congregation in North America? Among his many GYC admirers and in the Michigan Conference in particular? As far as I know, and judging from comments by those he hurt the most by his strident commentaries, I wouldn't advise asking SKP to seek out the company of so-called SDA liberals and progressives in this country.

Nana Osei Kwadwo

Mtanzania - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 06:24

This is heart breaking but life has to go on.

Pyalie - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 06:51

Sampson Osei Aboagye - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 01:10
"I think it is unfortunate what has happened to Pipim and his family. However to your question: whether this man is still an Adventist?, is also unfortunate. I sincerely know and believe Pipim is a child of God. "

Sampson, the question was rhetorical in nature and meant to highlight the irony that it has been Pipim who would loudly question the "Adventism" of individuals who committed much less "crimes" of faith - like drinking coffee, or eating meat.

---
1 Corinthians 13:13

Carmen Lau - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:18

I just read "Founding Faith" by Steve Waldman. The following words which he attributes to John Adams seem appropo: Immoral behavior, ungentlemanly insolence and blackest brutality is patiently endured and forgiven. But touch a solemn truth in collision with a dogma of sect and you will find you have disturbed a nest and hornets will swarm about your legs, hands, face and eyes.

afua - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:25

why are you sympathizing with a womanizer? the man did not go overseas for the gospel but to spread the word by unzipping his pants. Lift up the cross and stop the nonsense with Pipim. His cup is over and you reap what you sow. he is a pastor so what?

Nic Samojluk - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:25

Not Surprised wrote on Wed, 06/01/2011 - 10:54:

“Not surprised that Spectrum Blog/Alexander Carpenter jumped on this. In fact, when when we discovered what had transpired, we both said, "Spectrum will be all over this." Didn't take but five minutes, it seems. Why did this need to be a headline?”

*********
Spectrum treated this tragic event the same way the Bible treated David’s fall. Had this not been the case, we would have never learned about David’s sin, repentance and forgiveness!

Fr. Jim - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:31

Does all of this mean that there will be no more bashing the Catholic Church for the clergy scandals?

Abe Thompson - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:32

Mike
Based on the word of God Jesus would view Pipim as a "whited selpchure" professing on the outside but capable of immoral behaviour in secret.

A popular myth in so called Christian circles today is that one can sin with impunity and still be forgiven by God but the Bible does not say so.While Jesus cast seven devils out of MM he did not cast one devil out seven times. Scripture is plain if you lay hold of the plow and look back you are lost.

I do not know the circumstances of Pipim's transgression but a married man knows when he is being aroused or seduced .We do not give into sexual temptations unless we want to.

Adade - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:32

To Jodi Yeboah:
The Devil is like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour and the moment he saw Dr Pipim's guard was down, he pounced. We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against higher powers....Everyone who is truly doing God's work will go through a similar severe testing - a personal time of trouble - and, but by the grace of God, they will also fall. Satan knows he can unsettle the faith of many when someone like Dr Pipim falls- I've seen it happen time and again. This doesn't excuse what Dr Pipim did - had he looked to Jesus in his hour of temptation he would have had the victory. We should never look up to a mere man, they will let us down. Jesus should be our only model.

do not misquote the bible and put in your own interpretation to make Pipim a victinm for he is not. Do you know how many women or men he has been doing this with using his so called ministry of unzip your pants. Do not be mislead and search what the scripture says. Billy Graham is a human being and never allowed this kind of behavior. Pipim has never been truthful with himself and now he is caught and looking for sympathy.

Josephine - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:36

"Temptation of the moment"....yeh right! I wonder if there are enough women brave enough to come forward? This has been a life long power trip, and his strident campaign against women's leadership along with his other right wing rants is a smoke screen for this moral dysfunction. Prayer is important, but this guy needs radical psychotherapy.

Adade - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:40

Daniel Owusu-Djan - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 05:18
If Pipim had slept with your sister you will not write this nonsense. A minister of the gospel will not engage in this kind of behavior. Do you know how many women or men he might have a moment with. The Spirit of prohecy or the Bible does not encourage hypocracy and speak and encourage holiness not mercy by engaging in deliberate act. You are crying for pipim and what about the woman or man he cheated with.

Akos Mansah - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:43

Well said Josephine and may god bless you for your remarks. I can see you are a Seventh-day Adventist Christian with a wonderful message from god and I hope the ignorant followers of people will get your message

The Truth - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:48

How much money did it take to silence the other party?

How much money will it take for the other party to come forward?

Akos Mansah - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:55

Margaret Osei Boateng - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 01:10
You are a disgrace to women. You are praising a womanizer. This man does not have respect for women and you are defending him. i have read his so called letter and I do not see anything that he is sorry for his behavior. Do not support sin and quote the bible to encourage sin. The cross must be lifted up and Pipim should be told his behavior and actions are a disgrace to the gospel of Jesus. whether you like it or he has been caught. Shakespeare once wrote " the evil that men do live after them and you sow what you grow. Do not deceive yourself for the man does not have any moral. billy Graham did not do it and will not accept anything less from anyone who want to encourage sin

Abada - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:59

Now I know that God is not sleeping. I have stood by and watched this guy exalt himself while covering up his sins; and all the while I am wondering how long it would take for this guy to be caught.

This is the lesson. Shun extremism and extremists. These are narcissists playing God while pretending to glorify God. Ben Laden himself was a perv all stacked up with porn. All you extremists look out. Your day of judgement is at hand!

yeboah-boateng, KNUST - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:02

Sampson Osei Aboagye - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 01:1

What about the woman or man he took advantage of or manipulated and slept with. Is the person not a child of God? Stop this hypocracy and let the right thing be put right. This guy went overseas to spread the gospel and ended up with a different agenda and do you know how many men or women have been suppliers to his sexual addiction? He is sick and needs some serious help. pray for the people he had deceived by sleeping.

munya mutema - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:07

My little children, i write unto you that you sin not,... but if any of you do sin, we have an advocate in heaven.. Dr., our sincere prayers are with you. You will forever be an inspiration to most of us.

Joselito Coo - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:13

Am I surprised that Ghanaian women are speaking out and posting on this site? Still fresh in my memory was a Sabbath morning service I attended in Ghana a few years back when all the women members of an SDA congregation voted to disfellowship a womanizer. Heartbreaking alright, but no one I knew shed a tear.

yeboah-boateng, KNUST - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:15

@ Maame Yaa , this man did not bring thousands to the Lord rather slept with thousands and now he is caught therefore, stop adoring sin and lift up the cross. You wrote "it is unchristian like to rejoice at a someone's be he a pastor,church elder or a member of the congregation." Noone is rejoicing at his but the truth is to be put right and not to cover up. Pipim is getting his own medicine and let him drink it. He dose not have the fear of God in him. Pretense does not work in the Lord's circle but holy and purity is what the Lord want.

munya mutema - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:16

How can you say that? We dont have holy flesh until Christ comes..

MERCY ANOKYE-KNUST - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:21

Kool. that is how we need to relate to this men who are womanizers and use the Bible to cover their immoral behavior. Pipim is a disgrace to the ministry and has hurt many people. He speaks in congregations being Ghana or not to crucify women and he is worse than the woman who stands outside to look for food food for his children by prostitution and does not know Christ. He is a disgrace to the gospel and can't l wait to see the outcome of this from our church leaders.

THE WRAP OF GOD WILL BE ON ANY LEADER WHO TRIES TO COVER UP FOR THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR

Not Surprised - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:23

@Nic:

So now Spectrum is the voice of the Holy Spirit? This is the Bible? We get to pick who becomes a moral lesson? Good night - do you hear yourself?

Elaine Nelson - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:28

Your Friend wrote:

"Carpenter and company continue to allow ad hominem attacks."

Does that include your "attacks" which you regularly post? Attacks come from both sides, and because you are allowed to post here only demonstrates that all comments are allowed: it's called "freedom of the press" which Spectrum provides. In what SDA publication would you be permitted to have your say? When do you expect to find Pippin's letter in the Review? Or the recent financial fiasco in Australia, or Texas? Remember, Spectrum is NOT controlled by the SDA church and is only one of a limited number of venues for free SDA expression. Perhaps you like a controlled press?

Elaine

MERCY ANOKYE-KNUST - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:30

munya mutema - YOU WROTE:
My little children, i write unto you that you sin not,... but if any of you do sin, we have an advocate in heaven.. Dr., our sincere prayers are with you. You will forever be an inspiration to most of us.

YOU NEED TO LET THE MAN KNOW WHAT HE HAS DONE INSTEAD OF ADORING HIM FOR THE BEHAVIOR. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MEN OR WOMEN HE HAS BEEN DOING THIS WITH. SHAME ON YOU AND MAY THE LORD FORGIVE YOU FOR ADORING SIN

Joselito Coo - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:41

For non-Ghanaians who don't know what KNUST means, it is Kwame Nkruma University of Science and Technology (Ghana). I'd seen the place and met some coed SDA students and alumni.

Nana Osei Kwadwo

Only God is good - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 08:59

Only God is good, and He is not done with Pipim yet!

Abada - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 09:16

"...he found out that he wasn't (perfect)? NO. WE found out that he wasn"t.

Marcus S. - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 09:17

Someone had blown "Your Friends'" cover recently. He is a pastor somewhere...

Can we have that information to address as Your Friend (Pr. so and so??) That'll frame the dialogue.

Darrell C - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 09:30

Boy, our African brothers and sisters are quite rabid and somewhat psychotic about all this.

Let's be rational, folks. It's a pretty big jump from a 'moral shortcoming' to 'has slept with thousands' and 'has been doing this his whole life' as some here seem to be espousing. Let's not let the irrational mob mentality set in and let's be reasonable.

I think City Lights made the point many of us progressives are trying to make (and even his post is borderline). Anything beyond that is merely speculative vindictiveness when we blow what we barely know out of proportion.

FH - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 09:39

Dear Friend:
I appreciate the above insight, as hopefully you might the one I'm about to offer: Sam technically sponsored the theology in the "Sin & Salvation" issue of Adventists Affirm (V23/N2), as you will find Sam's signature inside the front cover of any hardcopy—right under "editorial board." In this issue you will doubtless discover, as I did, a well-defined gospel: Sin as choice, Christ's unfallen nature, justification and sanctification as salvation, and sinless living before probation's close.

In this periodical you will also discover the name Kevin Paulson, who elaborates on the subject of righteousness by faith. I suddenly wonder what Pipim might have felt seeing his "Pauline doctrine" exposed to such treatment? Nevertheless, the Hamartiology, Christology, Soteriology, and Eschatology expressed in this issue extends far beyond those names you mentioned above, and reaches straight up to the GC president's office, as David Larson so eloquently expressed when he informed us that the winning theological ballots were officially in.

As a point of interest, if in fact Sam's theology was based on justification-alone salvation, as you seem to suggest in your post—and I don't for a second doubt the accuracy of your remembrances—then we could perhaps argue that this brother was at best confused about his doctrinal package, and at worst duplicitous in sharing his core beliefs. This internal-external tension of belief (in his case, apparently espousing one theology in private and supporting another in public)—which some of us have experienced at some level—may one day be seen as a "blessing" within the movement of young people he was so identified with. Remember, words of clarity and consistency is a sacred, uncompromising virtue with our youth....not just works of popularity.

In the end, those who understand Adventism's political machinery likely believe his "moral fall" will do little to diminish or demoralize the work of GYC, for he was neither its founder/theologian nor its most trustworthy spokesman. Or so it seems.

That many assumed Sam's labors were inextricably attached to the success of GYC is understandable. I see nothing unfair in this perception. However, those who from 2002 led-out and extended the borders of this movement knew better than to give credit to themselves or anyone else for having ignited the sparks for this global, decade-long revival. And as such, key youth leaders behind the scenes shouldn't perceive this sad tragedy to be anything but one man's tragic disgrace.

Sure, tears will fall, hearts will break, questions will certainly be raised. Yet it will be no surprise if few behind the scenes believes that GYC's missional path won't continue to thrive within Adventism, despite the loss of this hugely beloved, if somewhat unstable, adult.

Aage Rendalen - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 09:52

Fr Jim
The moral failings of Catholic priests is not the issue. Immorality is no respector of ideology. Your church has been in the news because of widespread cover-ups which allowed predator priests to continue preying upon those entrusted to their care. Protestants have been more prone to fire their errant ministers because their ministers are not invested with the same sacramental authority as RC priests are. But your church is certainly not unique in being more concerned about protecting the reputation of the church than the well-being of its flock. As you can see on this thread, Pipim, a prominent SDA cleric was apparently well-known in his native country as a predator, and yet nothing was done about it.

Aage

Ghana SDA - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 10:02

You joke when I say Dr. Sam was tricked, it was set up. He is a strong wilpower Christian, they have done something to him. There is powers behind this that is not Jesus, powers of Jesuut or Satanic. You will see. I know this, because I know people in Africa. Any man can fall if tempted strong enough by Jesuuts. They know how to break a man, they use drugs hypotism witch doctors very evil. You will see.

Tim - Clement - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 10:04

Sampson, the question was rhetorical in nature and meant to highlight the irony that it has been Pipim who would loudly question the "Adventism" of individuals who committed much less "crimes" of faith - like drinking coffee, or eating meat.

It seems to me (an outsider) that there is a big difference between preaching what one believes to be the truth, in terms of correct behaviour, and following that teaching. Pipim clearly accepts that his actions were wrong. Questioning someones "Adventism" about drinking coffee / eating meat, is a very different idea. If an individual thinks it is not wrong to drink coffee / eat pork, then that is very different from an individual who believes it is wrong, but does not resist the temptation to drink / eat.

If an individual believes the opposite to what the Adventist institution and belief system teaches to be true, then it seems reasonable to ask how "Adventist" that person is, ie how in line with the Adventist position are their beliefs. If someone lapses into behaviour they believe to be wrong, this is a different ball game. It seems to me the difference is in belief and behaviour. One can believe all the Adventist teachings and try to adhere to them, but slip up occasionally, but one can also disagree with Adventist teaching and so drink coffee (etc) not as a slip, but because one does not think it is wrong.

Tim

Tim - Clement
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Geo S. Believer - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 10:08

"Only God is good, and He is not done with Pipim yet."

You are correct. He will be back. His style of hard-edged condemnation theology is just too valuable to the church. It is only a matter of time. I give it a year, and he'll be reemployed by a church entity. You heard it here first.

Darrell C - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 10:26

Good grief Tim-Clement,

Are you trying to create a new 'Who's on First' with that convoluted post?? :-D

hellen Awuah - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 10:49

Darrell C you are ignorant and a fool for you to call Africans psychotic. If you do not know what is right and wrong then you an an idiot. all you need is common sense to know that Pipim had caused adultery and is a sin and a preacher should be held accountable for his behavior. You are not different from him for you do the same as Pipim. Watch your mouth before the wrap of God falls on you.

Mike - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 10:57

People are not answering my question posted earlier.And I am not surprised.My questions were what is Jesus thinking about Dr.Pipim now?.And if Jesus was on earth today ,how would He treat the Dr.Pipim?.

Mike MacLennan - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 11:05

Daniella: Thanks for sharing your beautiful prayer. I hope it brings comfort to Dr. Koranteng Pipim.

City Lights: While we share the good news of the everlasting gospel, I would suggest that Pastor Kevin Paulson exercises far more control in expressing his ideas and even scores points because of the intelligent way that he writes. One of the things that was against Pastor Walter Rea was the sarcastic way that he wrote his White Lie book. Had he exercised the appealing to logic style of Kevin Paulson he could have made his points more effectively.
But there is another ingredient that is missing: LOVE. 1 Corinthians 13 shows that "Love does not gloat over people's sins" including those publicly confessed by Dr. Pipim. Whether they are confessed or not, LOVE DOES NOT GLOAT OVER THEM.
In most of Paul's books we see a pattern: the 1st part deals with Justification and the 2nd part with sanctification. Paul could address the early Christians as "Perfect in Christ", "accepted in the beloved", "seated with Christ in heavenly places", "complete in Him" etc., and yet they were full of immorality, lying, cheating and so on. Paul drew attention to both in a beautifully balanced way.

All I can say, as with the Apostle Paul, that Dr. Pipim is "complete in Christ", "accepted in the beloved", covered by Christ's imputed merits. As far as his sanctified life is concerned, I am sure that Paul's words to the believers would no doubt be applicable to him as they would be applicable to all of us, because "in many things, WE ALL OFFEND." But who am I to point those out in brother Pipim, when I have much bigger issues to deal with in my own life?

SPECTRUM et al - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 11:11

Are we saddened by this news--yes. Are we disappointed--yes. Are we excusing him for his sin--Not at all. Should we rejoice over his fall--God forbid. He has fallen, he has confessed his sin, the duty remains not with him but with us from hereon.

While some here may (strongly) disagree with Dr. Pipim on his theological method and various other theological reflections, let's not be quick to forget his leadership and influence in Adventist church over the last 20 years. I don't think anyone here can doubt his impact on the youth in the last decade --whether you see it as ideologically divisive, legalistic, and fundamentalist, you cannot deny the fact that he has exerted such a tremendous impact on the youth in NAD and around the globe.

As a 20 + year old who is very much involved in the life and mission of the church here in NAD and over seas, I cringe that people like CARPENTER, CITY LIGHTS, ELAINE, and others are quick to judge (and perhaps rejoice) at the fall of this man. I ask you, who among you has come forth and strived for the last 20 years to revive and show the youth of the church a better way--a Christ way? Who among you has spent his resources, life, and energy for the youth of this church? How many youth have you led to Christ in these last twenty years?

The last time I checked, SPECTRUM, AT and their admirers continue to question/reject the teachings of mainstream Adventism: the accounts of Gen 1-11; the writings of EGW; the investigative judgment; the historicist approach to prophetic interpretation; revelation, inspiration; and interpretation of the Bible; righteousness by faith; and so on--quite frankly, I don't know how anyone could subscribe to the gospel preached here at SPECTRUM and AT and remain a Christian, let alone an Adventist. With the teachings I find here, I highly doubt that few years ago I'd have left my secular, Darwinist, and atheistic leanings to become an Adventist.

Like yourself, yes there are points I disagree with Dr. Pipim (remember no leaf is like any other on the same tree), but recognize that this man fell while attempting in his fallible form to do something--whether you call it fundamentalism or not--but he was doing all he can to spread the Gospel. Admire the man for his courage to stand for something, and also respect his courage to willingly subject himself to all this criticism especially if he could have easily denied like many others do.

If anything, we should ask ourselves, what are we doing here? John the Baptist died because of those who sat and refused to stand for anything (Mark 6:26). While we debate and turn every stone in Dr. Pipim's life and teaching, millions of our youth in the church are leaving our church simply because few are willing to stand and provide the much needed mentorship and solid Biblical leadership. Perhaps Dr. Pipim fell while attempting to rescue many of these youth, what are we doing? What are you doing?

Enough is enough. You may disagree with Dr. Pipim's approach to theology and youth ministry, but do something, STAND OUT and show the church and the youth something better. It’s always easy to point fingers...

George Knows - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 11:12

@Mike - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 10:57 You wrote;"People are not answering my question posted earlier.And I am not surprised.My questions were what is Jesus thinking about Dr.Pipim now?.And if Jesus was on earth today ,how would He treat the Dr.Pipim?"

My response: Jesus is thinking that he is a womanizer, a liar, hypocrite, Pharisee, adulterous, false preacher with message to deceive people and full of pride. Jesus will not encourage adultery but will let Pipim know what he did was wrong and will ask him to bring the person he slept with being a man or woman that he will know his sexual preference. He will curse the womanizer demonic spirit out of him that you Mike will not be afraid to be around him. I hope you are satisfied with the answer.

Dziedzorm Segbefia - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 11:13

I think this is one of the very best posts so far. So wise and so gracious!

davidrlarson - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 11:15

If we can back away from the particularities of this specific case, much more generally speaking I think that instances of this sort prompt at least three valuable kinds of questions.

1. Ecclesioligical quesitons: How should the Church as the Body of Christ respond in its necessary administrative work? It seems to me that it should (a) protect its good name and the safety of all with whom it interacts; (b) foster the redemption and reconciliation of the one who is in trouble: (c) leave it to those who are closest to the situation to determine on a case-by-case basis in consultation with qualified specialists what precisely to do each time.

2. Psychological questions. I cannot help but wonder about the extent to which the defense mechanism of projection has been at play in such cases. It has been my experience and observation that the psychologists are right when they say that we all have a strong tendency to accuse others of our own faults and failures and that the more consistently and harshly we condemn others the more likely it is that this is what we are doing. The trouble is that we do not consciously do this; therefore, unless a good friend or counselor helps us understand ourselves we dig ourselves deeper and deeper into this dark pit of self-deception.

3. Theological questions: Cases like this suggests to me that those who say that with God's power we can overcome all sin in our lives might be right if we limit the term "sin" to those relatively rare times when we consciously, intentionally and with full self-awareness and freedom do that which we honestly believe to be wrong. Yet those who say that moral perfection is impossible in this life might be right if we expand the meaning of the term "sin" to include the far greater number of unhelpful things we do without really realizing at the time precisely what is going on.

If the prayer of Jesus on the cross, "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" does not also apply to all of us, we are all doomed. The good news is that it does!

Again, the specifics of this paraticular case at this point appear to be so common as to be boring almost beyond belief. But I think that we can benefit by thinking about the general patterns.

George Knows - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 11:19

@Mike MacLennan, You wrote: "All I can say, as with the Apostle Paul, that Dr. Pipim is "complete in Christ", "accepted in the beloved", covered by Christ's imputed merits."

My response is that Jesus did not adopt the engaged in Pipim's behavior. Pipim is a disgrace to the clergy and should not be allowed to be near the youth. Stop adoring sin and lift up the cross. Shame on you.

joan Ohene - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 11:41

@Carmen Lau - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 07:18, You are a wise man and feel blessed for you message. Yes, his followers are trying to cover up for him but the truth will remain that Pipim is a womanizer, a liar, manipulator, adulterous, proud, . he needs to attend the school of humbleness, truth, sincere,

Dziedzorm Segbefia - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 11:44

My post was not meant for the person who last spoke. They were meant as a gratitude to S Styrra. The words of George Knows disgust me. Who are you to presume to know what Jesus, the Second Member of the Infinite Godhead, would have said about His erring servant? Did God's voice register in the earthquake? the storm? the fire? before Elijah? Let no one on this obviously despicable platform for once presume to know the mind of God. But for his resignation, would anyone of us here know about Dr. Pipim's transgression? Did some church somewhere raise it as an issue for which he had to rush out and resign? Did he not himself reveal his misdemeanor to the world? Why then does anyone here presume to second-guess what God thinks of His erring one? That this here is an Adventist media platform turns my very stomach rapturously.

Fortunately, nothing said here, except the records as they are kept by the recording Angel, matters to Heaven. Heaven knows the extent of repentance of the erring one. Our vituperation and condemnation have little significance with He that has declared, "Is not this a branch plucked out of the furnace?"

May God give u the strength to recover, SKP (not that I particularly think you'll read anything on this vile, wretched platform), so that we can all be together on the clear crystal sea where things would in the last day truly matter.

joan Ohene - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 11:50

To Daniel Owusu-Djan - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 05:18 you wrote:
"So, i believe that we all have made mistakes before, this man is entitiled to making a mistake, Seriously I would stand on his behalf anyday, this man has had an impact on sooo many lives, my spritiual journey changed for the better after I had attend youth camp a couple of years ago, the lives that he has changed is incredible, look the wisest mad made a mistake, and so what if i'm he's a pastor?? Isnt he human? He"s not a God, I respect even more that he has come forward with this, because many others would hide this. God Bless Him in what way that he is in. If God has forgiven him why cant us humans do so?"

My response: I think you are shallow minded and you need to read the bible to understand what is scriptural stand on such a behavior. Pipim is a minster and to engage in such a behavior is unacceptable. Do not worship man for Pipim does not care about you. He is only for pipim. You wrote "this man is entitiled to making a mistake," by spending his own money not when you sin against one of the commandment by sleeping with somebody we do not know whether a man or a woman. He is not god and stop worshiping him.

Elaine Nelson - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 12:03

Another psychological study:

"A Kanasas University study of 15,000 people found almost no difference in the sex practices of atheists and highly religious people, except that the religious felt very guilty about adultery, masturbation, and certain other acts. The guilt 'does not stop them,' said researcdher Darrel Rey. 'It just makes them feel bad.""

Elaine

May Nkansa - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 12:13

@Dziedzorm Segbefia - Fri, 06/03/2011 - 11:44
thank you George Knows for your comments and let me add a few for the Dziedzorm Segbefia.
I thought you were a Christian but now I see you are a hypocrite and worse than a Pharisee. You comments are disgusting as your name is for people like you make Christianity annoying to many people because you do not let truth prevail at all time. Just because the guy is a pastor does not mean anything. You wrote a lot and said nothing about the poor woman or man who was manipulated for his selfish sexual pleasure. the Bible that I read does not set a double standards. but Pharisees and hypocrites like you adore his behavior in the church.
The church of God will not allow sexual perverts to influence God's church. If god's money was used in buying his ticket and paying for his hotel then you will answer to God one day. Stop adoring sin and call sin a sin. You are not god and am not but we need to speak the truth and the truth will set us free. You are a disgrace and a shame to the church. I have given you my peace of mind if you can go to hell.
The Lord's church will be protected. Pipim has no respect for the church hierarchy, women, church doctrines and he thinks his mission is to change the world but you go out and sleep with other women. Pipim's theology is " Do what I say but not what I do" shame on you all who adore his behavior.

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