
Editor's Update: This video has now been viewed almost 112,000 times and was just featured on CNN Headline News as an online phenomenon (over 62,000 of those views came from this page)! If you haven't seen this genius bit of creatively vented frustration yet, read on.
And now for a little levity on the blog...Three pastors' wives from the Florida Hospital Seventh-day Adventist church in Orlando decided they were tired of having their latest household fiasco show up in sermon illustrations, so these women made a parody video to get their point across, revamping Carrie Underwood's popular "Before He Cheats" with their rendition of "Before He Speaks." Thanks to Donna Haerich for passing this fun piece on. And thanks to Vickie McDonald (married to senior pastor Andy), Tami Cinquemani (married to associate pastor Jeff), and Amy Achata (married to youth pastor David) for venting their frustrations so creatively!
Enjoy.
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Comments
Very fun. I think pastor's wives from any denomination can relate to this experience.
Great Job!
But where did they learn to sing like that?
Maybe there's a story there!
Tom
Too Funny! Thank you for sharing your creativity, talent, and well produced parody!!! (excellent singer too!)
Daneen,
We may have discovered the real reason women are "discouraged" from the ministry. Can you imagine how they could destroy our male ego each week? I shudder to think!
:~)
pat
This video was produced for an annual church retreat where the Florida Hospital Church enjoys a Saturday night program geared to laughing at themselves. Last year's "Adventist All-Star Trading Cards" was produced for the same reason. Stanley Pomianowski is the gifted media producer for both, and Caitlin Rushing (the fiance' of a member) is the extremely talented singer on this year's video.
That's great...
(gotta hide it from my wife though LOL)
Without question there is palpable chauvinism in the ministry. Women are treated as the "weaker sex" not only physically but mentally and emotionally.If a man does something stupid it is an aberration. If a woman does the same thing it is par for the course!The funniest comedians are those who make fun of themselves rather than others. Jack Benny, Don Knotts, Bob Newhart etc. Those who poke fun of others produce only a nervous laughter. There is nothing funny about the pain of others.
In 1934 while building the first James White library at EMC in the middle of the winter, a workman was trying to start the engine on the mortar mixer. His bare hand slipped and his knuckles hit the sharp set mortar on the side of the mixer. He sustained severe cuts and real pain. A ministerial student was passing and started to laugh. The superintendent was standing by and bawled out the student with an oath. The student went straight to the President and made a complain against the superintendent. The President called the superintendent into his office. The president made it clear that profanity was unwise on a Christian campus. The president added, I'm glad I wasn't there, I prbably would have said the same thing. By the way, you might like to know, the student that complained has the lowest I.Q. in our college. He really needs all the help he can get. I told him, if he can't keep his mouth shut, at least stay away from any construction site. Tom
Ouch!
Ah, I could tell stories from my husband's preaching days - but won't! Gotta protect his fragile ego! Pat, you actually made me laugh!
So how was the song made? Did you get a karaoke track and record the vocals, or did a band perform it?
Jeannieb43
Can't resist asking Tom: Who was that wise EMC president? And also, who was the "low IQ student" who complained??
My great-uncle was Professor Frederick Griggs. I can remember sitting on his knee as a small child while he sang "There's Someone Tapping on the Maple Tree." He had a marvelous singing voice and personality.
I wonder if he was the president to whom you referred.
Jeannie
A karaoke track was used, and the vocals were recorded. We have an excellent band, but they were hard at work on other numbers for the retreat.
This isn't exclusive to preacher's wives--goes for the families too. As a preacher's kid I never knew when my actions of the week would find residence in the sermon. Ouch!! and Amen!!
Hi Tom...
It's interesting that women are looked upon as the less capable sex within the ministry. Stereotypes, and in this case overt discrimination, are damaging.
But, it's also interesting how the tables are turned in the media. Just watch an hour of TV, if you can bear it, and just see how husbands, fathers, and men in general are portrayed on sit-coms and commercials. They're all incompetent buffoons and idiots, incapable of intellectually keeping up with their children, and always having to be bailed out of trouble by their wives.
Reverse stereotyping maybe?
Thanks...
Frank
I guess it started ih the comics. Dagwood for example. Or
Half track.
Yesterday, I planted 14 Gardinea's on a hilside. Fell down twice, with hip replacements no joke. Lost my glasses. Found them. Cut my arm, Betty got the first aid. I got the clumsy award and the easy chair--chair bound for the day.
That's the stuff that comics are made of. Tom
OH yes, I notice a spot of blood on my night shirt. I'll get a clucking sound in the morning.
This was absolutely delightful! As a former pastor's wife it was entirely relatable for myself, my daughter, and for his entire family. There were times you would want to crawl under the pew---figuratively and literally.
Thanks for the comments by men who "get it" that sexism lives on in the Adventist church. And, I agree about television demasculization efforts.
Thoroughly enjoyed this and got a huge chuckle out of something that has long made me squirm in church when it happens. I once told one of our pastors that sermon illustrations with their wives as the main topic made me very uncomfortable for several reasons; one, it was usually something to cause embarrassment to the wife; two, she may have learned a completely different lesson from the same incident than he did (maybe something about the nature of the man she married), three; it isn't fair because she doesn't have the same platform or forum from which to speak to the issue that he does, and four; it robs her of the basic privacy we all would like to enjoy.
It may seem a small thing, but perhaps if pastors of all denominations give this some serious thought, it would improve the quality and longevity of pastoral marriages. Constantly having your private issues aired before an audience without your knowledge or consent probably builds a lot of pent up resentment that uses up a lot of energy as a woman wrestles with herself and the Lord to resolve it. That energy could no doubt be freed for better uses if this weren't an issue. These wives did a wonderful job of gently and creatively pointing this out, and such talent!!
Re portrayals of males in the media
I don't think it's exactly reverse stereotyping but just standard story-telling celebrating the underdog. The tacit assumption is that the males do have the superior position. Their doofus-ness is basically a plot device to balance the scales.
Think of most fairy tales- it's the third princess, the foolish youngest son, the poor woodcutter, who wins, and the king in the tale is usually an idiot even though he has absolute power. There is a balance that pretty much makes the story.
So if a 5th grade girl outwits her slow, clumsy father on a TV show, it's a case of her wits balancing his power and it's a funny story. If a father bullies his slow, clumsy 5th grade daughter, there is no balance and it's not funny anymore
I for one loved it and had a good laugh. After all laughter is good medicine. Myra Cowley
that was such a great video very funny, where can i get the cd? thanks Theresa
Ouch...my toes!
Ladies, I admire the charming and entertaining way you get your point across. The men in our lives may not have understood our feelings on this subject before, but I bet they do now! Good job!
Jeannie
Sorry, I missed your question. I hope I am not too late.
Professor Griggs was president when my father was a student. My dad thought the world of him. No the president at the time of the incident was President Klooster who had just arrived, taking the place of President Stean (?)
The student graduated, his father-in-law was a conference officer. He got a job selling books in a way off conference in Canada. I forget his name. I would rather not give his father-in-laws name--he has had pain enough.
I think the parady was enough to get women fully ordained, then we men can have our turn also. Tom.
Now that we are on dumbing down. A short story. My children attended the SDA church school in Augusta, Ga. while it was still in an old house on Walton Way. The intention was to tear it down and build a church and church school across town from the sale of the property for a high rise. The zoning killed the project. The School Board delayed doing necessary repairs. So there was a gas leak in the basement. The teacher would send a student down to the basement to light the oven to bake potatoes etc for lunch. The students complained of gas. The teacher said, "well light the match in the hall and back into the room, then you won't get burnt in the face if it blows. Fortunately, my kids told me and I was able to get the gas leak fixed before it "blew". The point is that teacher was prompted to pastor of a small church in the Southern Union. I never had to "sit" through one of his sermons. I know I would have smelled gas. Tom
Young male pastors use "old, staid, often untrue illustrations" from books they read...
Seasoned male pastors, like the three being "indicted" here, (I am personally acquainted with these three, honest, God-fearing men!), who use true-to-life, heart-warming illustrations from personal experiences of those near and dear to their hearts. These illustrations, the congregation can identify and remember. It is then they are grateful for their pastor and his family, who are genuinely real — LIVING HUMAN DOCUMENTS!
COURAGE MEN! Pastor Hank (with 50+ years of experience)
Thanks, Tom, for that capsule of a connection with my dear Uncle Fred Griggs. Everyone seems to have loved him; I realize I have a rich legacy from him. Thanks for taking the time to mention it.
Thank you Pastor Hank... As I developed my preaching skills, I've noticed that the church connects with real life stories. We (pastors) just need to be sensitive and not share very personal info. With that said, it was a great video!
I'm a chaplain's wife and thought this was wonderful! Who sang this? They did a great job - hilarious! Thanks for sharing - Mindy
This was the best! Made my day -- makes me long for the days when I lived in Orlando and was a member of this wonderful church. Andy and Vicki are wonderful people!
After the first couple of times of my wife saying afterwards, "That's not what...I said, I did, happened (or whatever) I learned to avoid using a family happening to illustrate a sermon point. I wish I had heard about the pastor who paid his kids and wife for everytime he used them in an illustration in a sermon. Maybe I could have been more personal then. Not that I haven't thought of a personal illustration while in the flow of a sermon and used it, mostly to my later regret. Me: "You really think people heard it that way? That's not what I meant or was illustrating. I'm sorry honey, I'll try not to use us as an illustration. BUT, I can't guarantee that I won't slip again. Will you please forgive me again?" (OOPS and I just did it again, didn't I?) Sigh, will we husbands ever learn? ;0} Brother Michael
My Wife and I chuckled greatly over this production.
I have to confess that in my earlier days of preaching I inadvertanly made my wife squirm. Today when I use illustrations from my personal life, they are experiences, challenges, and resolutions that I have lived. The illustrations do not directly focus on my children's or my wife's experience. They can speak for themselves. Most of the time I lift up my beloved publicly for putting up with me.
I can imagine the audience at the first public airing of this piece roared.
I commend the creative production for the reminder and valid insight. Transparency is vital in the ministry but the wall of protection around the family is essential.
This was absolutely fantastic! We were in the ministry for over 44 years and I can't tell you how many illustrations I have heard about my life experiences as well as the childrens. We didn't really mind but this is so "right on"!
I, too, would LOVE to have a copy of the CD! I certainly hope someone promotes this as it would be a big seller, I'm sure.
Thanks so much for the laughs.
Barbara Peterson
What a terrific parody! What creativity, lyrics, volcalist, and humor! We all need to laugh at ourselves, and am sure that the husbands laughed, too. Keep it up, ladies!
This clip was great. Having used my family as illustrations in the past, I have learned to never embarrass them. My oldest son used to ask to have things mentioned about him, I think ke like the attention at the time.
Usually now they are something funny, but never putting my wife down. The last one I used was that many pastoral families fight all the way to church then put on a smile. My wife and I never fight on the way to church, we drive separate cars. She did mind at all.
Marvin
I know I have embarrassed my wife a time or two from the pulpit to say the least and I've only been preaching for three years. I find this funny and true, and my wife really enjoyed it. Great job and ladies keep up the good work. Sometimes pastors need to be reminded of these things.
As a pastor's wife,I can relate to this! My husband is retired now but he always used me in his sermon illustrations. When he did I just felt hundreds of eyes on me! I just laughed!
Beautiful job girls! My husband and I really enjoyed it!
Gladys Gómez
Avon Park, Florida
Great video! What talent.This video could become famous!! I grew up in a pastor's house, and although I don't remember a lot of embarrasing stories about us or my mom, I certainly have heard them in churches along the way. This is a fun way to point out that perhaps this is not the best idea. :)jenn woosley
So is this baby number two for Amy?
The girls did a wonderfully hilarious job. Caitlin Rushing is so talented. Admittedly, in this all of us pastors are sinners but even as we "transgress" the church family knows that we are deeply committed to our beloved wives. As for mine she just shrugs "here we go again". Back home we have a good old laugh about it over lunch. "who loves ya babe?"
this was so funny!!A pastor friend sent it to us..I am not a pastors wife, but my husband and I have a 2 hour talk show on the radio every morning..and I don't like him saying too much about our personal lives on the radio, so I understand very well..De
Ladies, fab job, funny! Obviously, all in the spirit of a church retreat entertainment program, but a clever way to convey a message that some preachers must hear. Caitlin, American Idol should be your next stop. Vickie your husband's sermon here at LLUC was a tremendous blessing. For those of you who have been used (spouse or children) as embarrasing sermon illustration, hopefully your spouses can find their material somewhere else. We (our kids and I)are very fortunate that when my husband is going to tell any stories on us, first, he asks for permission and second it always has to do with positive, loving and special moments. Our congregation can gladly vouch for him.
As for the "sexism lives on in the Adventist Church" comment, fyi, sad to say but that is true in ALL denominations. Fortunately, that is so not the case with my husband.
I was surprised to see the name Tom Zwemer! I'm Joanne Kelly/ Vincent's eldest son Mark. I just wanted to thank you again for the help that you and Betty gave me when I went to SMC in the Early 80's. I met my wife there, and 26 years and 4 kids later we are still happily married. Our eldest son just graduated from SAU Magna Cum Laude as a PreMed and is accepted to LLU next fall. Our daughter is getting Married in 12 days to the young man that she met at SAU. You folks helped make all this possible. Just wanted to say HI!
Mark Vincent
Dayton, OH
ROTFL! Rolling on the floor laughing!!!
I'm a pastor's daughter who is very grateful that my parents made a mutual decision at the beginning of my father's ministry that he would NEVER mention the family in his sermons.
It's public enough just to be a member of a clergy family. Unlike others, I have spent my whole life feeling protected (in that way). More pastors should consider making the same decision my parents did.
I can't tell you how much fun it was to see this! Sorry Jeff, but Andrew and I had to laugh all the way through . . . miss all of you!
- GT
This was very humorous.
You Go, Girls!
From Denise and Odalys (jacksonville pastor's wives)
HI-LARIOUS LADIES, I accept this video for Exactly what it is, a way to state a simple message, and to make us laugh at ourselves. YOU THREE, and your help, DID A GREAT JOB HERE, and I LOVE IT!
God Bless You ALL,
James Gershon
I know I've been guilty of embarassing my kids a couple times. My wife pointed it out so I now ask their permission before using them as an illustration (though I have since forgotten a time or two to ask first - sorry kids!)
Fortunately, my wife is so awesome that every story I remember every mentioned about her is complementary. As opposed to the countless personal illustrations I have readily available of my many faux pas, misunderstandings, and weaknesses.
I must have been sent this video at least six times this week. It's very funny & creative.
Good job & God bless!
Steve Leddy
Lead Pastor | Spiritual life Coach
24-Seven Ministry Center
www.24-seven.org
"what we sow, so shall we reap?"
Just a thought to consider: Is there a difference between a sermon illustration and gossip? When does a sermon illustration begin and when does gossip end?
I am an Evangelist, as such, I suppose the stories of others are ripe for the pickings as illustrations, but I think there is a fine line between gossip and what could lead to gossip and sermon illustrations. Illustrate acts of faith, things that encourage, lifestyles that uphold the word of God and brings glory to HIM, but perhaps avoid illustrations that do not edify.
Great video... I am an academy teacher and my wife says that I am guilty of the same. In some ways its worse because it is not public enough for her to know until one of the students (sometimes weeks later) mentions the story to her.
I think I need to take a vow of silence.
That is an awesome video! It should be required viewing at seminary! LOL! I think most preachers have been guilty of this at one time or another (myself included)...it isn't just the husbands! :)
Loved this! I'n not a pastor's wife nor even closely related to one. But I have sat through many sermons when pastors did just this and I cringed for his wife or kids. Glad to see both genders can see the humor in this video.
WA state
Great Parody!
I can't wait until you create the next one. This will definitely cause pastor-husbands to think twice before mentioning something "not-quite-so-nice" to the congregation during sermons or seminars.
This was fun - thanks, Gals. But you know, most of them will just add this to their illustration list and use it when needed to make some point. I've never liked it, yet I've been happy to help - even if through my fiascos. I've kept a list, too - that's why I've never been allowed to take the pulpit.
I can relate to the benefits congregations gain from personalized illustrations pastors/teachers/professors have used in their presentations...and it's true...these more personalized stories do stick with people-sometimes throughout a lifetime (whether the listener is a family member/parishioner/student).
I'm sorry for the distress this transparency may cause at times, however, I am eternally grateful to these transparent personalities God blessed humanity with, as if it weren't for them (by choice, or by default of membership) many lessons wouldn't be learned and many lives would not be changed. It is wonderful to have the opportunity to have ministers (pastors/teachers/professors) and their families before us, who are willing to through human understanding give examples of how God can relate to humanity and show His passions to win our hearts to Him for eternity.
Thank you, wives, for pointing out the oversights many are found guilty of in presentation.
On the note of sexism in our churches, this unfortunately isn't endorsed by the teachings of the Bible, anywhere. Granted it is noted in many writings in the Bible, but only by way of setting the stages of cultures presented not in anyway an endorsement of appropriate fellowship/behavior. I do pray there will be abolishment of this such behavior in our homes/churches/schools/leaderships as every member of the human race has the potential to contribute to the betterment and good of fellow people.
Please don't stop this branch of ministry...it needs to continue.
I'd also like to know more about obtaining a copy of the CD.
God bless always,
Kristine
I resemble that remark!
WOW... All I can say is WOW! Great job and very much enjoyed!
This was GREAT!!!!! Well done, ladies!!! Those who choose to marry ministers have a tough road to walk WITHOUT being used as sermon-fodder. I can't imagine being one and kudos to you all.
I have been to a couple of different churches where Pastor's have used their families "private" business as "sermon illustrations" and know how I would feel if such a thing was done to me, I would be furious! One of these Pastor's I am speaking of was down right cruel and I use to feel so sorry for his wife and kids. Thier personal business should never be aired in front of the congregation, EVER!
I feel this is out there with the parents telling boyfriends or girlfriends about stuff the kids did when they were little, very humiliating. Ladies you did a good and tasteful little video here and I do hope that Pastor's all over the world learn a lesson from it.
As a minister, only one word....ouch.
I had heard about the video, so when I got it, before I opened it I called my wife; (Big mistake for a young aspiring preacher as my self), after I recovered from laughing (and the pillow my wife threw at me) we got to talk a little and decided Randy Roberts practice will become ours (thanks Anita!), or the second rule will become active; I'll have to pay my wife and kids if I don't ask first.
It's also a good practice with extended family, church members and friends.
My sisters you were over the top, you are not the only one that does not want to hear about yourself in the sermon, we that have to listen get just as tired, soon as they say my wife we say OH not here he goes again! Bless you, as you sit in your place keeping your screams slient.
i really liked the song. in my humble opinon there
are many illustrations in the bible and in the
stories of the early workers in s.d.a. history,
perhaps it would better to use those gems...
has it ever occured to any one that strangers might
be in the mist and they learn about the problems or
others mishaps.. that some one might use against the
family... perhaps the pastors have never considered it
as gossip... not a biblical illustration. or a home
improvement comment. but leting all others know the
weakness of the family unit. who knows perhaps some
one might want to make home improvements of their own
and the family is shattered with out ever being able
to come together again. the family must be protected
at all costs... my husband used to do that till i
drew the line and he can no longer use me for any
kind of example either for good or for a lesson.
helen, fresno california
My husband has been a pastor for over twenty-five years. We went to seminary thirty years ago with 2 kids, and left with 3. When we went, we joked that he would now be OFFICIALLY bringing up the rear of the procession, since we seemed always to be arriving last, kids in tow!
He has a wonderful sense of humor and has shared many family foibles with our congregations over the years. Many years ago, we had the conversation about what things were painful and what level of sharing was tolerable.
We have always found that people love to see that we are normal, that while we both have feet of clay, we love and accept each other and our children. The Lord brought us together and the Lord keeps us together. Our marriage IS our ministry.
So he tells stories on me and I tell stories on him and we tell stories on ourselves and everybody can relate.
He sent me this saying "I hope I'm not this guy." He isn't. But if he crosses the line, I call him on it. And if *I* cross the line, he calls me on it, too!
That said, I have never been the target of abuse from my beloved.
Where abuse exists (even though denied) ANY story will be hurtful and is intolerable. If it makes YOU feel better, or "better than" the one you're telling it on, that's abusive. Don't do it.
The video is great, by the way! Girls after my own heart!
Wow, this video has been viewed 46,587 times (to date).
As a preacher's kid (PK), this song comes eerily close to home. Not only did my mom figure in many of my dad's illustrations but so did us kids. And, as in the song, rarely in a good light.
Oddly, I am turning 50 in a few days and I still find myself in one of my dad's sermons. Maybe there should be a part 2 to this song!!!
Great video clip. As a pastor's wife I totally understand. After being married to a pastor for 31 years I've come to expect to be mentioned frequently. It's often a compliment, but sometimes it's something I cringe at a bit.
Our daughters let him know it wasn't acceptable to use them unless he cleared it with them first. So he does.
This is so hilarious! I seemed to be able to relate to almost every part of the song! :) Very cleverly made!
Very funny.
My wife is also a PK and she clued me in early on in my ministry that it was not cool to use either her or our children as object lessons. The good news, and bad news is that more often than not I get into enough embarassing situations to keep myself more than supplied with illustrations.
Can someone please post this on GodTube? We are blocked from YouTube at my job but they must not know about GodTube because we are not blocked from it. I would love to share this with my coworkers that do not have internet access.
I agree with the individual that said it is not just wives mentioned in sermons. I to am a pk. "When my boys were young," could often be found in the context of sermonizing. My brothers and I would scoot down in the pew and wish for the sermon to be over.
Pastors need to think about who they are to be talking about. The subject should be divine not human. That's where we get the power to be overcomers, not in knowing the mishaps of human existence.
Steve
Just wanted to say that I thought the video was hilarious! I love to hear sermons when Pastors tell little stories about their lives, wives and families because so often that is the part of the sermon that stays with me - illustrating the story that way has always been my best way to learn and remember. I have often thought though, that as a wife or child I would be grimacing at the sound of my name being used. For me, I think that any story I have heard has only made me love and appreciate my Pastor's family even more. What a great way to express your thoughts on the subject.
Thanks you.
Linda
Knowing these women (and their husbands) makes the video more amusing, because each pastor is, in fact, madly in love with his spouse...and the congregation knows it! A sense of humor is key to any marriage. Go Girls.
Joyce
Awesome,very creative.
Independence Blvd. S.D.A. church in chicago.
This is great!!! I have been a senior pastor's wife for almost 30 years, and I have been the sermon illustration a number of times. This is super creative and too cute!!! Thanks for the laughs!!!!
Susan
Awesome Video. But in fairness, I think these Pastors have "no" intention to embarrass or hurt their wives feelings.
No, of course they didn't intend any hurt feelings--that's what makes this in such good fun.
Quite brilliant!
Yeah, who is going to record a PK version of this sentiment?
Thanks to all our fans; we had know idea...it was simply a practical joke we did for our FH SDA church retreat, but we obviously scratched an itch. Our husbands are the best, and are laughing along with us! What's the next topic you would like to see?
Bravo! This is meant to be fun...with the proverbial "truth in jest" approach. I think there is no offense to be taken from the men, here. My chaplain husband never embarrasses me with personal illustrations, but my pastor-father sure did--including the whole interruption during the sermon on a lazy summer Sabbath afternoon from the pulpit (with sermon being recorded and everything) "Jennifer, if you are tired, sleep somewhere else, this is the house of worship!!" Imagine that at 14 years old. I hadn't even realized that I was dozing off! I was mortified and remember it like yesterday. We do need a PK version. As for this video, all in all, very fun, very good.
Thank you for this version! I have congregants come up to me all the time telling me how strong I am to let our personal stories come to everyone's knowledge from the pulpit. Grr! But I keep up the art of smiling & nodding.
Funny thing is, my husband is the one that sent this to me.
Awesome!
Creative and well done video. Points out a real need in a humorous and gentle way. As a matter of fact, I'll have to tell my wife about this...or better yet...I might use it as a sermon illustration! :)
This is great! The priest's wives in our Orthodox Church Diocese should make a video like this!
Every pastor's wife in our three county Oklahoma association needs to get a smile out of this one.
Sharon
for the ladies and thier husbands - I'm a spiritual psychotherapist and marriage counselor with 40 years of non traditional ministry under my belt - give me a call!
Way to go ladies!
Who are we all kidding? The video was cute but most "close" minister's wifes, know the example that will be used, and he probably practiced giving the sermon on her!!!!
I don't like... expose the church like that...
Using a wordly rock music... did you read sda teacher Samuelle Bacchiocchi in the book Christian and the rock music?
Heber--it's just in good fun. (I'd imagine even someone like Bacchiochhi has a sense of humor--at least I hope so).
Brilliant job, ladies. Not only is the parody spot on, the success of this video shows how this experience must ring true in so many denominations. In the CNN news video, even the CNN host said that her dad was a pastor and she often showed up in his sermon illustrations.
Poor Sam. Great Scholar, mediocre theologian, totally lacking in knowledge about music.
Christian Skeptic
Today, Sunday June 8 I tried to view the video only to find it is no longer available. I wonder why?
Pastoral ministry has a (usually) subtle, but infused bias that women are "weaker" due to the fact that it has an evolved professional tradition reaching back into the centuries when women did not have equal rights or equal standing in any sense whatsoever. Unlike most professions, that have had some decided paradigm shifts/mega-shifts in their professional content over the years, when you pick up a basic text on pastoral ministry the framework of ideas is 1,000 to 1,500 years old. This depth of spiritual roots has some good things about it, but the chauvinistic thread is one of the bad things about it.
David--it's playing now just fine.
I think will show the world that we seven day adventist are normal human beings. That we are not a crazy cult and we do have our own feeling and great sense of humor. If this doesn't get to the pastor about tell their personal things in their sermons, I don't think they can be reached. Myself I applaud you ladies for comming up with this. I'm still giggling and can't wait to show it to my husband (deacon) and would love to share with women's ministry. You ladies need no incouragement to know your power as children of our Great God in heaven. If only all our sister could have this inpowerment and voice their feelings. Our church's and family's would be happer places to live. Sister's keep up the good work. Imo
Leaders of Women's Ministries
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Let's just hope the women of the church have as much of a sense of humor when "the shoe is on the other foot". My guess is, they will consider the author a male chauvinist!!! Most examples I have heard used in sermons where wives or children are mentioned are not at their expense.
The piece was very well done and extremely funny, but hopefully, my guess is correct.
There are many comments I could make, but this one quickley came to the top. While the song repeatedly says that their husbands should think before they speak. Would there be any harm in thinking before they give their husbands a sermon illustration? I do not condone spreading one's dirty laundry to get a laugh in church. That applies both ways.
Ray Phillips
Ray--There are so many comments that you might not have noticed that the husbands/pastors were informed and gave their full consent before this video was posted.
I see this video now has almost 84,000 views! I think there are a lot of sympathetic pastors' wives, pastors, and parishioners out there!
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
I was a pastor's wife for 20 years. I know how does it mean. I did tink that it was happening just to me, but as I noticed with this video it is a script that almost all of them play on their sermons! Shame on you all pastors :-(
I loved the parodia.
I'm disappointed there would be any who took offense at this obviously happy playful thrust at the Pastor Husbands of these talented women. Loosen up you grumblers! The ladies were having fun and I think its about time we returned to the relization "image of God" also includes happiness and joy.
Great job. It is fun to laugh at ourselves. The story is true and should be heard by all, but let's not make a drama out of something that was fun to do and fun to watch. Let's just laugh and think before we speak the next time. I just goofed about my son last Sunday in a joking way and now wish I hadn't. Good reminder to us all and WHAT A FUN WAY TO DO IT!!! Thanks
Right on Alex a PK one would be a nice addition. I'll have to talk to some of my friends. :D
I AM HAPPY FOR THIS VIDEO. SO MANY OF US HAVE BEEN VICTIMS. HOPE THE PASTORS TRULY GET THE MESSAGE IN ALL DENOMINATIONS. IT HURT ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN. ASK PERMISSION BEFOR YOUR SHARE PRIVATE DETAILS. ASK BEFOR YOU ENTER THE PULPIT-NOT WHILE ON THE PULPIT-WHATS THE SENSE ASKING THEN?
I resemble those remarks!
This video is disturbing. I don't see the humor in it at all. Worldy music, worldly dress and an obvious attempt at self adoration. These women look and act like the world. So sorry SDA is attached.
TJH,
I usually buy my clothes at stores here on earth, but I was wondering if you have found non-worldly (heavenly?) clothes somewhere that Adventist women can buy?
Do they look anything like http://blogs.newamericamedia.org/images/263.jpg? Because if they do, I am pretty sure where to go to buy those ... I just don't want to make the trip unless you're sure.
"This video is disturbing. I don't see the humor in it at all. Worldy music, worldly dress and an obvious attempt at self adoration. These women look and act like the world. So sorry SDA is attached."
Your kidding, right? Please tell me your kidding. But of course, you're not kidding. That's the pathetic thing.
Well done ladies. And bonus for annoying the Pharisee.
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